That's the thing. People who are figure skating fans are generally appreciative of all skaters (doesn't mean they like all skaters or agree with all results, but they usually at least respect them as athletes). But there are also a) crazy ubers b) nationalistic sports/Olympics watchers who aren't FS fans (crazy nationalistic Japan-hating Koreans/Chinese, the Sochi "Rossia!!" crowd, ect.).
We're all human. No group of fans and no Federation is really better than the other. Every country has lovely fans and every country as crazy ultra-nationalists. Sadly, I feel like the latter could take over Pyeongchang and work against Japanese skaters + Adelina on the 1% chance that she shows up.
I am sure there are coaches and judges from Korean fed who like Mao's style, but dare they go against their federation to give her good scores, if she actually came back and performed well? Having said that, I don't think Mao will come back for 2018, though.
Same thing could be applied for any other skater from Japan and Russia federations. I mean surely the supportive members of Korea fed would love to give fair scores for the deserving skaters regardless of their nationalities.
But can they go against the nationalistic side that never want to see Japanese and Russian skaters on the podium? That I can't tell.
Ok. I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings but I'm not saying Russians were rude or anything else, but I said people seem to be blatant there. And although you can see it as an insult but I think it's just a cultural thing. It's a perspective of things. Look at all the czars and people living in the harsh cold winters etc., I can agree that that can change people's perspective on things, and Russians are not afraid or timid to show that. That's just how it is in Russia. But, when I'm talking about the people, that is hard to say. Because we can get all bewildered up here about nationalities, but at the end of the day, there are good people and bad people. And with Putin coming in power to their neighbors and the West not liking him, I can understand how the Russians felt during that night. I don't mean to be rude to anyone.
@Meioma, I do agree with the South Koreans about Tarasova. There is something about there that I don't like. I don't know if that' just how it is (old styled, tough love), but she really didn't seem to like Yuna, although she respected him, or maybe it was just Orser. There is something about her that I just quite cannot get to like her.
Do you know Yubaba the witch from Spirited Away? Tarasova reminds me of that character.
Anyways Tarasova doesn't seem to like Orser in particular and Canadians in general. She doesn't like PChan.
All of Orser' students are surely not liked by her, since they are her students' rivals. Believe me, Tarasova doesn't like Yuna and Yuzuru even just a bit. maybe she just doesn't like Orser' style.
O MY GOD. I just looked it up , and you nailed on the head. I feel like she needs to retire and have other people get a chance. She surely has done excellent work, I just hope that her character matches it up.
Tarasova indeed is very good at polishing skaters who were developed by other coaches. But for sure I hope she will retire soon.
That's why I like Mishin more, because he teaches all his boys from young, give them best jumping technique until they leave him for Tarasova.
can't get enough. yeah but that's also what I'm talking about. She seems mean, but oddly loving. She is almost like a scary grandma to everyone.
Anyway, about Pyeongchang.... if Korea doesn't have a serious contender until then, I doubt there will be much interest in figure skating. So I say no favoritisms unless Adelina's going for the gold again or KSU has any other ideas. That's for the ladies single, and for the men, pair, ice dancing...... I don't think anybody in Korea would be desperate for a certain skater to win. I mean, people aside from skating fans barely know which skaters are good let alone the rules. So nothing overly-outrageous will happen IMO.
Quality over quantity. I think it's one reason why Jason made such a huge splash last season. Yes, pushing the technical envelope can be exciting, but it can also lead to splatfests (Sochi Olympics, anyone?). There are a good many times when I would rather see a slightly less demanding but clean technical program than one or two huge tricks wrapped up in a mediocre program.
I agree about seeing a more crisp and simple program skated cleanly with less emphasis on jam packing a program. Not sure about the program being mediocre because I don't think that is necassary but I'd love to see a bonus for holding out a jump or spiral like move exceptionally well. Oh that deep curved edge.
Honestly I can't get this complaining about splatfest. It was always part of the game. No one was always clean. Even Yagudin and Plushenko had their moments of bombing Skaters are pushing technical elements because they can do that. Someone ho is doing more simply program is doing more simplier program because he can't do what other guys can. It is what competition is all about. Even the simpliest program can turn to a bombing if it is not your night