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    "Women" and "Girls" for season 2014-15

    It will be interesting see the different styles for female skaters this season.. with Mao, Caro, Akiko, Yuna and others retiring, this season will be "athletic and technical" .. a few of ladies still compete and they will try beat to younger and stronger ladies

    WOMEN: Valentina Marchei, Ashley Wagner, Kiira Korpi, Viktoria Helgesson, Adelina Sotnikova (her Carmen was amazing and sexy), Kaetlyn Osmond, Samantha Cesario

    ATHLETIC GIRLS: Julia Lip, Elena Radionova, Gracie Gold, Polina Edmunds, So Youn Park, Zijun Li, Gabrielle Daleman, Courtney Hicks

    LADIES WITH "in the middle" STYLE: Mae Berenice Meite, Joshi Helgegsson, Alena Leonova, Kanako Murakami, Haruka Imai

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    Mirai: woman, Ashley Cain: girls and Anna Pogorilaya: in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuisRollerArg View Post
    It will be interesting see the different styles for female skaters this season.. with Mao, Caro, Akiko, Yuna and others retiring, this season will be "athletic and technical" .. a few of ladies still compete and they will try beat to younger and stronger ladies

    WOMEN: Valentina Marchei, Ashley Wagner, Kiira Korpi, Viktoria Helgesson, Adelina Sotnikova (her Carmen was amazing and sexy), Kaetlyn Osmond, Samantha Cesario

    ATHLETIC GIRLS: Julia Lip, Elena Radionova, Gracie Gold, Polina Edmunds, So Youn Park, Zijun Li, Gabrielle Daleman, Courtney Hicks

    LADIES WITH "in the middle" STYLE: Mae Berenice Meite, Joshi Helgegsson, Alena Leonova, Kanako Murakami, Haruka Imai
    This list oversimplifies things. Lip and Gracie don't belong in the same category with the likes of Daleman and Hicks. And Meite may not be a young girl but she is the definition of an athletic skater who brings nothing else to the table. Marchei, Wagner, Osmond and Sotnikova are also very different skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    This list oversimplifies things. Lip and Gracie don't belong in the same category with the likes of Daleman and Hicks. And Meite may not be a young girl but she is the definition of an athletic skater who brings nothing else to the table. Marchei, Wagner, Osmond and Sotnikova are also very different skaters.
    How do you figure that? Gracie is a more athletic skater like Hicks or Daleman. Lip i agree isn't as athletic as some of those other girls mentioned. In fact her jumps are rather tiny not explosive.

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    The word girl originally meant "young person of either sex" in English; it was only around the beginning of the 16th century that it came to mean specifically a female child.


    So using the original English meaning, which of the males qualify as "girls".


    How likely is it that someone would start a thread like this for males, dividing them into MEN AND BOYS ????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    The word girl originally meant "young person of either sex" in English; it was only around the beginning of the 16th century that it came to mean specifically a female child.


    So using the original English meaning, which of the males qualify as "girls".


    How likely is it that someone would start a thread like this for males, dividing them into MEN AND BOYS ????????
    Thank you!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    How do you figure that? Gracie is a more athletic skater like Hicks or Daleman. Lip i agree isn't as athletic as some of those other girls mentioned. In fact her jumps are rather tiny not explosive.
    the sole definition of athletic is not explosive jumps. Lip has the spins above everyone and endurance, pretty sure she skated more competitive skates than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amei View Post
    the sole definition of athletic is not explosive jumps.
    If that we're the case then this Russian lady would be the greatest female athelete alive!


    http://youtu.be/8_RfK2rp2To

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    This list oversimplifies things. Lip and Gracie don't belong in the same category with the likes of Daleman and Hicks. And Meite may not be a young girl but she is the definition of an athletic skater who brings nothing else to the table. Marchei, Wagner, Osmond and Sotnikova are also very different skaters.

    Mae is so athletic, right, but she skates with sex appeal and sexy faces!! look her final expression in her Prince SP.. she definitively "is in the middle", athletic and stylish!

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    How likely is it that someone would start a thread like this for males, dividing them into MEN AND BOYS ????????
    Oh boy, now that'll be a volcano of a thread.

    I'm actually okay with the concept of this thread (using the terms "woman" and "girls" in terms of style, rather than just age), but if you put it like that... well, just goes to show how different values are between the genders.

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    I think this label is mostly used by some in the skating community to hatchet job skaters they view as a threat.

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    WOMEN: Valentina Marchei, Ashley Wagner, Kiira Korpi, Viktoria Helgesson, Adelina Sotnikova (her Carmen was amazing and sexy), Kaetlyn Osmond, Samantha Cesario
    Oh fantastic skaters. So beautiful, so artistic, soooo women. They deserve to win no matter what, because they're...well, "WOMEN".

    ATHLETIC GIRLS: Julia Lip, Elena Radionova, Gracie Gold, Polina Edmunds, So Youn Park, Zijun Li, Gabrielle Daleman, Courtney Hicks
    How dare they challenge the WOMEN?!


    LADIES WITH "in the middle" STYLE: Mae Berenice Meite, Joshi Helgegsson, Alena Leonova, Kanako Murakami, Haruka Imai
    I'm not sure what ladies "with in the middle" style means. A trans gender?

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    It's too bad that women vs. girls carries with it a distinction of quality. I consider Yulia a "girl" (and she uses this to her full advantage in both SP/LP), but I'm rooting for her with all my heart. Not everyone needs to be one kind of woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    I'm not sure what ladies "with in the middle" style means. A trans gender?
    for me, "in the middle" means these girls have style, but still needs so much the TES for be competitive.. Example: Kiira Korpi with 5 triples and a fall got 115+in CoR, and with 4 triples and 2 pops and 1 fall she still get 110+ in GPF , and Mae, Leonova, Murakami too, trying 7 triples in her FS only had 100-109 in 2012-13... "Girls", "Women" and "In the Middle" is all about skating style, not about gender...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatedreamer View Post
    Thank you!!!!
    Thank you icey and skatedreamer for saying what I was feeling.

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