And the only mention was of the sudden change for the SGP so don't start putting words in peoples mouth about the age for the JGP. Also you shouldn't use "Russian jumping beans" when we can tell you're just using it to try and dismiss the pure talent that's coming.
The suggestion about juniors is actually a good idea But I would just lower it to 12
While "Russian jumping beans" is clearly an exaggeration and you need not take too much offense to it (I'm sure other countries would kill for that kind of young talent, regardless of whether or not it lasts), to have little girls compete against ladies and win on the basis of their ability to churn out jumps that would not be possible post puberty seems a little silly.
I mean it's a similar argument in the gymnastics scene. (remember the Chinese team?). Anyway, don't forget that one of the reason many sports have age minimums in the first place is that you don't push kids too hard physically during a prime stage of development, too. I don't want to think about the implications on the men's side where all the sudden 12 year olds are expected to start hitting consistent quads...
For the whole age rule thing, either you are the best, or you aren't. Period. Age should have nothing to do with it.
If you do happen to be the best in the world at a young age, why restrict that talent? They would be that good regardless of any age restriction imposed.
Look what happened to Liza Tuk---her first year in the GP was fine, then she grew and she went downhill. Sot romped in the JGP then struggled in the GP because of growth. If they had stayed in the JGP for those years they would have continued to win while they grew.
I liked previous age limits more, it gave youngsters an opportunity to test themselfs as seniors and compete with the best skaters in the World at the Grand Prix before going to the big events. IMO, skaters like Julia, Adelina, Liza and even Mao benefitted from it, because by the time they were going to Europeans/Worlds (and in Julias case to the Olympics) they skated at the Grand Prix for two seasons and were already well known and quite experienced
At about the same age (about 1 month elder) was at her first JrNats Evgenia Medvedeva (12th place).
Radionova had her first JrNats being 12 (and was 4th - very talented girl), Sakhanvich - few days before her 12th birthday (was 12th).
Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva also were 12 at their first JrNats.
And Gubanova is not a "bean", she is really nice skater. Her SP at JrNats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04RX5heUbhM
Russia does not need to lower minimum JGP age.
With existing limit Russian girls have 2 to 3 JGP Final medals (including gold medal) at 4 seasons from 2010 to 2013.
Here's my belated thoughts on the GP assignments
- Elated Ashley Cain got an assignment as she seems to have been working really hard since Nationals
- Happy to see Wagner lucked into the easiest field with Skate Canada. Hopefully if she can start the GP strong, that will be a good confidence booster.
-I think some people are discounting Polina. I'll be surprised if she's not on the podium at her 2 events and I won't be surprised if she upsets Gracie and/or Sotnikova at NHK. Thrilled we'll get to see 2 of the top Americans head to head. Adelina v. Anna will also be interesting.
-Suprised in a good way USFS picked Radionova. I thought they'd want to keep the field as weak as possible for princess Gracie. If Gracie can win here, that's a more legit victory.
-On the one hand, I'm happy with the vote of confidence the USFS gave Mirai by sending her to SA. From a larger US standpoint though, I think it was stupid. She would have definitely gotten 2 spots elsewhere and the host picks could have been used to give Cesario or Cain a second assignment or Miller or Long a first assignment.
-I'm not so knowledgable here and the men are unpredictable. I knew they would give SA to both Jeremy and Jason and I think that's the fairest way to do it. Excited to see what Farris can do this fall.
-Thrilled that my new favorites Kayne & O'Shea got 2 assignments. A medal would be kind of miraculous in those fields but who knows?
-Does anyone really think Kaviguti & Smirnov will be able to come back/stay heathy? I just don't see it and was surprised to see them with 2 assignments.
-Scimeca and Knierim getting SA over Zhang/Bartholomay seems like a slight or at least an indicator of who USFS prefers. With C/S out, I think Z/B earned the spot that typically goes to the top US finisher of the last season.
-Have a feeling it will be a good fall for Duhamel and Radford.
-Glad to see Leng/Shnapir will be on the GP but not until November when they've had some time. Excited to see all the new pairs actually.
-Really sad not to see Dylan and Lubov. I had a feeling Russia might make this difficult for them. SC didn't even hold a TBA spot in pairs
-Curious to see if Chock and Bates with a little bit of home support/judging will be able to beat B&S at SA.
-So excited for the senior debut of Hawayek and Baker. I expect they may overtake Aldridge/Eaton right out of the gate. A big thing to watch will be how their scores are looking relative to the Shibs and H/D/
-Paul/Islam seem to have tougher events but it will be exciting to see them head to Gilles & Poirier. Weaver & Poje should have 2 easy wins and are my early favorites for the World title.
Would love it if somehow they all made it to the final ;D