07-02-2014, 09:39 AM
Hmmm. For the skaters, live and let live. Same for the fans. Some people prefer one category of skater over the other. That is fair even without the change in rules.
Originally Posted by papa
Body issues are a sensitive issue and so are the skating styles, which are affected by body issues and have to take those body issues into consideration. There is a brutal harshness to any sport that affords only a very short window in a pre-adult period rendering people of an age outside of that window non-competitive just as it would be to exclude anyone because of their age or talent. The more styles that the sport can handle, the more body types that can participate, the greater and richer the sport will be. BUT: It is an issue that need be recognized and discussed (bluntly as Karne has done) for that to happen.
07-02-2014, 10:27 AM
My point is not about preference, it's about respect and acknowledgement.
I don't know any other sport where champions would be so disrespected and diminished because of their age.
Huge group of basketball fans may hate and wish all the worst to LeBron James, but they respect him and acknowledge as NBA champion, same with Tiger Woods in golf, Cristiano Ronaldo in football, teenage girl-champions in tennis, etc..
Without high level of acceptance and respect towards young champions and stars, competition and titles have no sense really and ladies figure skating itself may become perceived as a freakshow.
07-02-2014, 12:25 PM
Did I miss Vanessa Lam withdrawing? She is no longer on the USFS reserve envelope?
07-02-2014, 01:26 PM
What? When did Lam withdraw?
Originally Posted by nam57
07-02-2014, 01:30 PM
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Vanessa Lam did not withdraw, at least as of yet. They posted the new US Team Envelopes recently and Lam, who was on the reserve team last season, is not on it this season.
Originally Posted by 96skiluvr
07-02-2014, 01:39 PM
And she is not at ISP.
Originally Posted by Chemistry66
How can it be? Only skaters in ISP may get Internationals.
07-02-2014, 03:38 PM
The birds always pick at the best fruit.
I see no harm in discussing what is an unavoidable fact of life for skaters. Every skater's body will change as they get older. Every skater must strive to adjust to these changes. Some will succeed in maintaining their skill level, some will actually improve, and some will not be able to adjust and their performance will suffer.
And it is not just the body that changes. Skaters mature as people too and their skating should reflect that. Currently, Julia Lip is very beguiling as the sad waif. But if she were still doing sad waif programs at 18 or 20, I would be disappointed.
One of the pleasures of following figure skating is watching the skaters grow and change. We discuss these issues because it's hard not to speculate about the looming inevitable and also because watching the skaters mature, change, and often surprise us, is part of what makes the sport enjoyable and interesting.
07-02-2014, 03:48 PM
+1 for sad waif
But seriously, I'll be thrilled beyond all measure to see Yulia and Polina continue to skate with the technical jump ability they have over many years, if they can keep it up. I may be skeptical whether that's possible, but I hope they can!
Also, since we're on the topic sort of, the PCS values of some of these young skaters are suspiciously high..
07-02-2014, 04:22 PM
07-02-2014, 04:31 PM
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