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    Quote Originally Posted by slider11 View Post
    As a Christmas present to myself, I went back and watched Kaitlin's and Jean-Luc's FD to the "Theory of Everything" from Skate America. It is beautiful and has such potential! The lifts were still new then and the footwork was more deliberate than flowing but I love the concept and their essential skills at performing it. I'm afraid that the FD's biggest deterrent is the short dance. That Nutcracker SD has been consistently scored low in technical and artistic elements. I'm afraid that Kaitlin is focusing so hard on being "ballet-like" that she's missing technical points and then not even carrying the artistry. I truly hope they have spent the last month reworking this SD from costume to elements to try to squeeze out something decent. The FD could have the potential to be accepted like the Shibs' "Fix You" if not held back based on the SD. Sometimes it's hard for even a trained judge to see past a mediocre performance right before one that could be so good.
    Couldn't agree more!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvuckic16 View Post
    Couldn't agree more!!
    DSC had their Nationals send-off this weekend. Looks like Kaitlin has a new dress for their SD.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5VmqKYhosc

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    Love Kaitlin's new SD dress.

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    Yay, she changed it. I'm really excited for them and hope they perform well at Nationals.

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    Throwing back to a sweet mini-vid from Skate America:

    (Wouldn't surprise me if this moment was used in a USFS video montage, but sweet enough for another look, IMO.)

    In any case, good luck to Kaitlin and Jean-Luc in St. Paul .
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    Nice article about Hawayek Baker on "The Edge". Good luck to them at US Nationals! Love this team

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    Too bad for HB this year ! But honestly, I don't think they were in top shape this year. I loved their FD, but their SD did not highlight their strengths.
    Hope for the best next year! They are still my favorite team! Sorry I won't see them in Boston.

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    I also hope they will come back strong next year I will miss them at Worlds too

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    I miss their old costume for the FP, but I guess the darker colors are supposed to give a more "mature" feel to their overall image? I still really enjoy this team and hope they are not too disappointed with themselves and come back strong next season!

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    Tbh, I've been a bit concerned about them all season. The SD wasn't a good fit from the start. At Skate America you had the rather direct comparison of Sinitsina/Katsalapov doing Swan Lake and H/B doing Nutcracker. S/K's SD fits them, it plays to what they do well, to Nikita's command and authority, to Viktoria's softness, to their good speed and flow and their nice upper body movements. While H/B's SD kinda worked against them...it emphasized that they're on the short side, that balletic movements aren't really their strongest point, that they could use more projection outwards etc. etc. IMO this is a coaching mistake, giving them different material (for example more classical ballroom) that emphasized what they do well would have been a better idea.

    And then IMO there's the general problem that they still look like a junior pair skating amongst the seniors. This is their second year now, they shouldn't look like that anymore. I don't know what the solution is here. Coaching changes aren't always the answer to problems like that and Krylova/Camerlengo are great at their job. Whatever they decide, I hope it works out for them. They're so talented and have so much potential.

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    Although I am thrilled for the Shibs winning, Kaitlin and Jean-Luc's 5th place finish at US Nationals was disappointing. I think they need to regroup for next year. Their lifts seem to be a challenge and maybe a lift specialist is in order to help them perform their lifts with better fluidity and speed. They can't change their small difference in height but maybe some additional core/strength training for both is in order. Kaitlin should not look to lose weight but to get stronger in the execution. Also, they need two dances that play to their strengths rather than try to develop a style (SD ballet) that is not apparent. I love the Theory of Everything FD and really feel like it was never seen properly by the judges. I know it's risky but maybe they should hang on to that and work to refine and find a SD that will put them in a better stance. But I really did NOT like the change to the blue sparkly costumes for the FD. It totally missed the mark for the mood and message of the dance. Jean-Luc's former outfit was fine but maybe Kaitlin needed to lose the lacy, bow dress and find something plain and sophisticated. But not blue sparkles Vegas!

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    I liked her new FD costume a lot (in fact IMO it's the best costume she's ever worn) but I agree it missed the mark in terms of the themes and tone of this dance- she should have saved it for something different. I think the SD was intended to challenge them this year but I agree this was an error probably a coaching one- they have to worry about looking less juniorish and breaking through on the senior level now, and that should be their ONLY goal and concern. Once they've done that they can challenge themselves.

    I do hope they'll get things sorted out. I still think they have absolutely enormous potential and all kinds of good qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slider11 View Post
    Although I am thrilled for the Shibs winning, Kaitlin and Jean-Luc's 5th place finish at US Nationals was disappointing. I think they need to regroup for next year. Their lifts seem to be a challenge and maybe a lift specialist is in order to help them perform their lifts with better fluidity and speed. They can't change their small difference in height but maybe some additional core/strength training for both is in order. Kaitlin should not look to lose weight but to get stronger in the execution. Also, they need two dances that play to their strengths rather than try to develop a style (SD ballet) that is not apparent. I love the Theory of Everything FD and really feel like it was never seen properly by the judges. I know it's risky but maybe they should hang on to that and work to refine and find a SD that will put them in a better stance. But I really did NOT like the change to the blue sparkly costumes for the FD. It totally missed the mark for the mood and message of the dance. Jean-Luc's former outfit was fine but maybe Kaitlin needed to lose the lacy, bow dress and find something plain and sophisticated. But not blue sparkles Vegas!
    I'm with you! I too would love to see their FD again in a more refined iteration. Honestly, it's one of my favorites of the season overall. I feel like they seemed rather juniorish in their SD and more senior in their free- maybe next year's pattern will suit them better? That said, I really do believe they could rise in the ranks despite the depth of U.S. dance- given time, they could be another dominant American team on the world stage.

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    Well, now that the season is over I wanted to talk about my bb faves! There's not really any room for them at the top. Hubbell/Donohue have reversed their backward slide and finished sixth in the World, and the Shibs and Chock/Bates didn't get any more vulnerable either what with their podium finish (yay US ice dance!). Next season their attention will need to be behind them, as they try to prevent C/M from passing them internationally as they did at Nationals and fend off challenges from Daniel Eaton and his new partner as well as a slew of extremely talented US juniors like the Parsons and new JWC McNamara/Carpenter (assuming they go senior, which I do).

    So what is the best course of action for them? What sorts of programs do you think they should do? What should their strategy be? What sorts of goals should they set? What do they most need to work on immediately improving?

    Also, given Weaver and Poje's slide in TES at 4CC and Worlds and their difficulty getting Level 4s on step sequences and the pattern compared to other top teams... is anyone else really concerned about DSC's ability to help their teams on the technical side? Kaitlin and Jean-Luc are going to be in such a very crowded field of young US ice dancers who are shut out from the top. It's going to be very competitive. It's absolutely imperative that they improve their levels, IMO.

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    I do worry for them a bit next year, but I think their focus simply has to be on creating the best programs they can and trying to rise in the ranks internationally. I'm not sure it is realistic to think they will be able to pass H/D next year at this point but they should be able to start finishing higher in international competitions and hitting their levels consistently. I do think this isn't really the time to try to stretch themselves as they did this year with the super balletic SD and they should try for programs that showcase their strengths.

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