06-29-2014, 03:14 PM
06-29-2014, 03:24 PM
only here for my juniors
It's going to be a battle for sure, especially now that Javi can get 90+ PCS. Now that we've seen Yuzuru do 4lo I really want to see Javi's!! Post Olympic season is already exciting!!
Originally Posted by HanDomi
06-29-2014, 04:11 PM
Say no to horrendous costumes
In Javi Fernandez's video of his new SP, someone said "two quads planned".
Oh my god! he will has a monster score if executed it well!
Here, 2 quads but it seems he miss/let out the final combo: http://youtu.be/vELBcJEujJM
06-29-2014, 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Meoima
06-29-2014, 09:52 PM
I like the SP! I think it fits Javi very well. He did some really interesting moves in the step sequence too (only criticism is that it seemed to last forever ).
Should he really got a two-quad SP though? I mean, I say go for it if he just wants to do two quads! But it seems like an unnecessary risk. If he messes up--and that's likely--it'll drop him down further in the standings compared to just doing a clean one-quad SP.
06-29-2014, 10:26 PM
I guess Javi would rather take a higher risk for bigger scores in the SP than in the LP, less jumps are required. His SS are lacking so he knows it's unlikely for him to get high PCS so he's going for the jumps
06-30-2014, 12:00 AM
Skating is art, if you let it be.
Unlikely for him to get high PCS? He already gets huge PCS and as long as he does all of the transitions and jumps, it will just continue to get higher. If he skates clean with all of those jumps in the SP, he will set a new world record and Hanyu won't be able to catch him unless he also adds Quad Sal to the SP. This next 4 years for the Men is going to be about having both a Quad Toe and Quad Sal. PCS aren't going to matter much at all. That score is mainly just a marker of past achievements + how consistently you execute all of your tech content (including transitions) anyway. Since all of the top competitors will hit 9's regardless of their actual performance and program, the real difference in scores will come down to tech content. Rotating your quad or not is now more important than the entire scope of artistry. The decision of the tech panel to call a quad underrotated or not will have more influence than anything else.
06-30-2014, 01:17 AM
Ooooh, I really like Fernandez's new SP. It suits him very well.
Fernandez and Hanyu are going to be nipping at each other's heels with this kind of planned layout.
06-30-2014, 01:24 AM
^yes yes yes, it will be a fraternal war between the Orser boys! But they are not facing off for the GPs. Maybe there will be B competitions where they can go head to head
06-30-2014, 01:26 AM
Yuzu and Javi have already faced off at worlds this year in Japan ... and at year's end we can look forward to their showdown at GPF in Spain. Can't wait.
Originally Posted by foruiz
06-30-2014, 01:58 AM
Yes, I was happy with the results with all my favorites on the podium for the men's There will the be GPF and Worlds 2015 to look forward to.
Originally Posted by anyanka
06-30-2014, 03:31 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
Guys, I have collected all the info I have so far about programs, and, as always, it is now the first post in this thread.
If you see any errors, (and I am sure there will be some) please post a correction here?
Last edited by dorispulaski; 06-30-2014 at 04:39 PM.
06-30-2014, 03:34 PM
Size 7 Knifeboots
Thank you Doris!!!
06-30-2014, 03:40 PM
True but I find that PCS drops after Olympic season is over, and Hanyu will have the advantage in the PCS department due to him being gold medalist, if Fernandez doesn't consistently land his jumps, his PCs will go down
Originally Posted by Blades of Passion
I guess this is one of the frustrations with the new scoring system, they're doing whatever they can to max out the tech content that it becomes a jumping contest /sigh
06-30-2014, 04:02 PM
They were always maxing tech content to win, even in 6.0 era - Plushenko/ Yagudin / Goebel. It is nothing new. Level is just going forward and they are doing harder and harder stuff.
Originally Posted by Krunchii