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Sky_fly will find you, and...I think Liza is extremely beautiful, and one of the most beautiful ladies in figure skating. Dare I say it, she has a very Hollywood diva look to her.
Sky_fly will find you, and...I think Liza is extremely beautiful, and one of the most beautiful ladies in figure skating. Dare I say it, she has a very Hollywood diva look to her.
Julia gets very high jump GOE from the judges (not really deserved, but she gets it anyway), and she scores far higher than Elizaveta in spins and non jump elements. Her PCS are also much higher. Unless Elizaveta significantly improves her spins and PCS she has no hope vs a clean Julia. And Julia pretty much always skates clean or close to it.
sky_fly20, dare I point out that YOU started the Tuktamysheva fan fest thread?
I was one of her biggest fan,
this isnt the same Tuk that I saw in 2011, sadly
she needs to sow the consistency and results like Gracie or Julia have shown
Liza looks great in this photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203327132570551&set=a.10203327113850083.1073741925.1577701846&type=3&theater Hopefully she will look even better on ice in the upcoming season.
At their first competition against each other this season (Finlandia), in the FS where both were pretty clean Liza got higher PCS. I'm not saying that Julia isn't going to get higher PCS, she definitely is. But it shows Liza is capable especially if she improves which she should with time.
But she's not bloooonnnd! (Liza is very distinct and that, imo, is part of her beauty. And I'm glad she didn't grow up stick-skinny--no offense to any super skinny girls, but Liza's features would look odd on someone that's way too thin.)I think Liza is extremely beautiful, and one of the most beautiful ladies in figure skating. Dare I say it, she has a very Hollywood diva look to her.
In that same folder are pics of Nugumanava at the camp https://www.facebook.com/carisuler/media_set?set=a.10203327113850083.1073741925.1577701846&type=3
she needs to sow the consistency and results like Gracie or Julia have shown
You mean like win an international event? Oh wait, Liza has already done that.
FYI, Tukt came 4th and 4th in her two GP events last season. A 3rd and 4th isn't much better.
How can one be a "former prodigy"?
At their first competition against each other this season (Finlandia), in the FS where both were pretty clean Liza got higher PCS. I'm not saying that Julia isn't going to get higher PCS, she definitely is. But it shows Liza is capable especially if she improves which she should with time.
That wont happen today though. Julia has gained too much in rep value since then. At the Olympics people are saying a clean Julia would have beaten a clean Kim or Kostner, and Sotnikova actually did. Bogus and pro Russian scoring aside, even in Russia this would not have ever happened in a million years had Tuktamysheva been there, and I am sure you would agree.
Look I am not saying Liza should give up or anything, I am just saying she needs to do more than regain her previous form to make future teams for Russia IMO. Even in her previous best she wont beat Julia on a typical day, Sotnikova on a great day (although Adelina's consistency is still probably a who knows, and has already been said it will be hard for her to be as motivated now), and there are atleast 3 others who would be very competitive even against Elizaveta's previous best. So she has to strive to go beyond regaining her previous form, and go beyond that, and significantly improve in a couple of areas.
You think two-fall Menshov would've won against clean Patrick Chan in Sochi, but 7-triple Liza has no chance in hell of winning? Some consistency problems there...That wont happen today though. Julia has gained too much in rep value since then. At the Olympics people are saying a clean Julia would have beaten a clean Kim or Kostner, and Sotnikova actually did. Bogus and pro Russian scoring aside, even in Russia this would not have ever happened in a million years had Tuktamysheva been there, and I am sure you would agree.
Look I am not saying Liza should give up or anything, I am just saying she needs to do more than regain her previous form to make future teams for Russia IMO. Even in her previous best she wont beat Julia on a typical day, Sotnikova on a great day (although Adelina's consistency is still probably a who knows, and has already been said it will be hard for her to be as motivated now), and there are atleast 3 others who would be very competitive even against Elizaveta's previous best. So she has to strive to go beyond regaining her previous form, and go beyond that, and significantly improve in a couple of areas.