Music suggestion for Gracie Gold

sky_fly20 · Jul 3, 2014

Components said:
Gracie is not going to get the PCS she needs to get a 150 score. The Olympics are over.

she is already scoring 30+ in LP, her Freeskates can easily crack in 140s especially with the old guards either not competing or retired
speed, power, jumps, beauty and body type will get you far in PCS

Gracie is already getting 200+ total scores
the first American to do so, not even Kwan has achieved that in her career !

Mrs. P · Jul 3, 2014

sky_fly20 said:
Gracie is already getting 200+ total scores

Ahem. She has received exactly one 200+ score in international competition. And that's with crazy Olympics inflation.

Components · Jul 3, 2014

sky_fly20 said:
she is already scoring 30+ in LP, her Freeskates can easily crack in 140s especially with the old guards either not competing or retired
speed, power, jumps, beauty and body type will get you far in PCS

Gracie is already getting 200+ total scores
the first American to do so, not even Kwan has achieved that in her career !

Gracie will need Asada level PCS to score 145 (average of your range) and that's not happening. Julia was clean in a Sochi Olympics and didn't score that high. She gets better PCS than Gold.

Maybe her programs will be that eMazing, though.

Kwan has nothing to do with this. I am numb to that tactic, friend

flyushka · Jul 3, 2014

Sam-Skwantch said:
It would be a serious copyright issue (DISNEY) and all her videos would be taken down so fast.

Maybe she could use Let It Go: Goats version instead then

Mrs. P · Jul 3, 2014

flyushka said:
Maybe she could use Let It Go: Goats version instead then

Or maybe the NSFW version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYsrV3zGd0c

Sandpiper · Jul 3, 2014

Why the heck are people bringing up Kwan's scores in the early periods of COP, before inflation set in, and which Michelle competed while perishing from injuries?

I don't think any skater will hit 150 skating to Let It Go. Unless all their competitors skated to Justin Bieber. (Now watch as someone proves me wrong next season :laugh:

. Er, the Let It Go part, not the Justin Bieber part).

In any case, Michelle Kwan skated to Pocahontas and the world went Gaga over it, so I don't see an issue with someone using Disney.

The difference is that Michelle was seen by most people as an enchanting artist on ice, while Gracie is already getting a lot of "pageant queen" labels. Skating to Let It Go wouldn't be the best idea for anyone, but it goes for Gracie in particular. (You don't have to agree that Michelle was an artist or that Gracie is pageanty, but that's how many people perceive them).

flyushka · Jul 3, 2014

Mrs. P said:
Or maybe the NSFW version? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYsrV3zGd0c

LOL! Now that's a winner for sure - I can't wait to see the judges' reactions to some of those very poignant lines.

ahy · Jul 3, 2014

Not a good music choice

Kwanford Wife · Jul 3, 2014

Here's what I'd like to see from Gracie in upcoming seasons: strong, athletic music that puts her ice princess on the shelf and showcases her inner tough girl. One of the reasons her Let it Go program is so painful to watch is that she skates it like she knows it's stupid. She's no sweetheart (and I mean that in the best way possible) she should put all the preconceived notions on the shelf and just go be awesome.

noskates · Jul 3, 2014

I don't think people's expectations of SOI programs are too high - do you know how expensive those tickets are now? This was an Olympic year and I realize perhaps some of the key people didn't have time to adequately develop programs for SOI but I do expect good choreography and good music!!!

Mathman · Jul 3, 2014

Michelle Kwan was 15 when she used music from Pocohontas as an exhibition. (I think this was before she signed on with Disney for a million bucks.

) Let it Go is too young for Gracie at this stage of her competitive career.

surimi · Jul 3, 2014

coolboogie22 said:
Do you think that Gracie could skate to «let it go» for her FS ?

I have to second the others. I don't think it would do Gold much good to skate to music for a children's/teens movie in FS. But, it could make a lovely and fun exhibition, granted she has a fitting costume for the role (I'm a big fan of skater costumes mimicking the movie version when skating to soundtracks, especially in exhibitions). I usually don't watch youtube videos because they keep freezing on me, and are blurred - for a program I haven't seen yet, I prefer seeing it on TV to make a first impression. Also, believe it or not, I've never heard the song (though I know it exists).

An exhibition to Let It Go would be quite fine by me.

caelum · Jul 3, 2014

Mathman said:
Michelle Kwan was 15 when she used music from Pocohontas as an exhibition. (I think this was before she signed on with Disney for a million bucks. ) Let it Go is too young for Gracie at this stage of her competitive career.

Yeah, this. It would be cute if a 11 year old did it, it's not so cute when a grown women is doing it. Plus, I find the whole "ice skater = ice princess" thing really corny.

Also, I think Gracie needs to build a stronger reputation with the judges before she can try anything too daring. I think she should stick to classical, instrumental tracks for the next season and build her reputation up. She just needs better suited programs and better choreography. Last season the music didn't highlight her best attributes, and they were choreographically bland.

skatedreamer · Jul 3, 2014

Sandpiper said:
Why the heck are people bringing up Kwan's scores in the early periods of COP, before inflation set in, and which Michelle competed while perishing from injuries?

I don't think any skater will hit 150 skating to Let It Go. Unless all their competitors skated to Justin Bieber. (Now watch as someone proves me wrong next season . Er, the Let It Go part, not the Justin Bieber part).

The difference is that Michelle was seen by most people as an enchanting artist on ice, while Gracie is already getting a lot of "pageant queen" labels. Skating to Let It Go wouldn't be the best idea for anyone, but it goes for Gracie in particular. (You don't have to agree that Michelle was an artist or that Gracie is pageanty, but that's how many people perceive them).

:agree: Once again, Sandpiper just said pretty much everything I was about to type... :laugh:

Although LIG is a cute song, it's also rather trite and has been played so much that it's getting boring. There's so much other wonderful music out there -- why use something that's already yesterday's news?

DianaSelene · Jul 3, 2014

satine94 said:
I thought the same thing. And I just can not understand the hype for this song

I don't get the hype either. After watching Frozen for the first time, I did not even remember Let It Go. It all just kind of meshed with every other song and none of them stood out to me. And suddenly I heard that it was the best song of the year, of the decade, of the century, of the millenium and every single girl was singing it.

I have seen most of the animated disney movies and could provide quite a long list of much more memorable songs. :scratch:

Jammers · Jul 3, 2014

I cannot see Frank Carroll allowing Gracie to skate to Let it Go as a competitive program. He's too smart to allow her to skate to a song from a children's cartoon plus the song is played out. Gracie needs to be taken seriously this season.

sky_fly20 · Jul 3, 2014

Jammers said:
I cannot see Frank Carroll allowing Gracie to skate to Let it Go as a competitive program. He's too smart to allow her to skate to a song from a children's cartoon plus the song is played out. Gracie needs to be taken seriously this season.

its not a cartoon :rolleye:

Olympia · Jul 3, 2014

DianaSelene said:
I don't get the hype either. After watching Frozen for the first time, I did not even remember Let It Go. It all just kind of meshed with every other song and none of them stood out to me. And suddenly I heard that it was the best song of the year, of the decade, of the century, of the millenium and every single girl was singing it.

I have seen most of the animated disney movies and could provide quite a long list of much more memorable songs. :scratch:

I agree! I was all ready to like the song, and then when I saw the film, I felt that it did not illuminate the character of that princess at all. In fact, most of the plot seemed contrived to me, with no motivation for events or characters' reactions. (And I like Disney!) Add to that the fact that the song didn't have (for me, at least) a rich melodic core, it never gave me the exhilaration that it's designed to give, and I am lukewarm about anyone skating to it. You're right that a large number of other Disney songs are much more memorable, especially those from Pocahontas. The whole score of that film is lovely in my opinion, even the song about "the Virginia Company" sung at the beginning. Not that I'm suggesting that Gracie skate to that!

Mathman · Jul 3, 2014

Sandpiper said:
The difference is that Michelle was seen by most people as an enchanting artist on ice, while Gracie is already getting a lot of "pageant queen" labels. Skating to Let It Go wouldn't be the best idea for anyone, but it goes for Gracie in particular. (You don't have to agree that Michelle was an artist or that Gracie is pageanty, but that's how many people perceive them).

The part in bold makes a great point. Personally, I don't regard Michelle Kwan (my favorite skater :love:

) as an exquisite artist, but rather as a great performer. I was just watching a video from the 2010 MTV series "Made" where Michelle was trying to help a young aspiring figure skater. Michelle demonstrated a few moves and then told the girl something like, "See? It looks like I am doing something, but actually I am just moving my arms up and down."

I do not regard Gracie Gold as a pageant-y ice princess in the least. To me, "robust athlete" is closer to the mark. :rock:

Kwanford Wife said:
Here's what I'd like to see from Gracie in upcoming seasons: strong, athletic music that puts her ice princess on the shelf and showcases her inner tough girl. One of the reasons her Let it Go program is so painful to watch is that she skates it like she knows it's stupid. She's no sweetheart (and I mean that in the best way possible) she should put all the preconceived notions on the shelf and just go be awesome.

Hi, KFW. Thank you for saying straight out what I think a whole lot of people have been tip-toeing around on this thread.

Amei · Jul 3, 2014

Jammers said:
I cannot see Frank Carroll allowing Gracie to skate to Let it Go as a competitive program. He's too smart to allow her to skate to a song from a children's cartoon plus the song is played out.

I beg of Frank Carroll to refuse to allow her (or any of his skaters) skate to that song.

Though - it would be slightly humorous if his 18 year old skater wants to do a Disney princess song and the skater he referred to as a 'little girl' in the Olympics when choosing her music went for Schindler's List, a piece of music far from Disney princess music.

Jammers said:
Gracie needs to be taken seriously this season.

I don't think that her music selections will do much for her whether it be really good or really bad music; if Gracie wants to be taken seriously internationally she needs to start finishing on the podium more consistently and podium finishes need to be more 1st place then 2nd or 3rd.

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