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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbiespectator View Post
    I'd LOVE to see Lambiel and Takahashi face off in a dance competition -On or off the ice.
    YES, and in a tough 'competition' setting, not just as a show piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by alia jackson View Post
    Are there available videos of men solo dance that I can view? Thanks.
    I can show you a lot of roller SD videos, but I don't know anything about ice skating solo dance competitors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aims View Post
    In addition, would love to see Stephane and Jeffrey in the mix. But then, I guess the discipline would end up with 'retired' skaters who could still 'move' but not jump as before...
    This sounds like a pro competition.

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    Wolfgang Ebersole
    http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=d1xOpEMzTtI

    I found this guy's performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by alia jackson View Post
    I often read some people want to see artistry and complaining about falling in jumps, too many jumps etc. So probably this single/solo dance can be a category to satisfy this group of viewers/fans...artistry rather than athletics.
    People complain because they expect more from elite athletes. They'd complain if they went to a gymnastics competition and almost every gymnast fell off the beam in Event Finals as well. That's normal. No one wants to see a splat fest, especially now that you have to pay even to watch decent streamed coverage without having to hunt for a Latvian feed you can't understand these days (or being a cable/satellite subscriber, and their broadcasts are usually distilled and/or run after you've known the results for hours)...

    I would not pay to see a Solo Dance event, personally, and I don't see how they're going to be able to add Ladies and Men's Solo dance into the schedule at ISU championships. All of that costs money, a lot of it.

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    Afaik, there are no efforts to include solo dance at ISU championships.

    However, the most watched ice skating video is still Willow Smith's Whip My Hair, which isn't that far from a solo dance performance. And people watch DWTS and SYTYCD, and that's just dance. Synchro worlds sold out in Boston, and it had no real jumps.

    If solo dance attracted better and more charismatic skaters, it could well find an audience. It just wouldn't necessarily be the same audience as singles or pairs IMO. I'd watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carriecmu0503 View Post
    Solo dance is huge in the US.

    http://www.usfsa.org/Programs.asp?id=479
    Sorry I disagree. Solo ice dance is in its "still developing" stages. Its following is much smaller than the free skate/ couples ice dance following and I would not say that either of those have huge followings (outside of the Olympics).

    I enjoy watching the girls practice their routines (we have several at our rink who have medaled at Nationals); however, I would never pay money to watch the competition. I have watched some "solo" competitions that are the qualifies for the Nationals, but after about the 5th competitor, I have gotten bored. Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by concorde View Post
    Sorry I disagree. Solo ice dance is in its "still developing" stages. Its following is much smaller than the free skate/ couples ice dance following and I would not say that either of those have huge followings (outside of the Olympics).
    I thought carriecmu0503 was talking about participation in the sport, not "following" by people outside the sport.

    The participation has to come first.

    Fans will only be interested in it at the highest skill level -- and, as dorispulaski notes, if the athletes are charismatic performers, since ice dance, solo or partnered, is about performance as much as technique and most fans couldn't care less about technique.

    Skaters with the talent and commitment to reach the highest skill levels will most likely only choose to devote the training time to reaching those skill levels if they foresee rewards for doing so.

    Prestigious championships would be one incentive, but as I suggested earlier the ISU is not likely to institute a world championship from the top down before a participant base is built from the bottom up.

    Until that happens, and enough years go by that enough talented skaters have put in the time to reach those levels, it won't be spectator sport for casual fans. But that doesn't mean that the hundreds potentially thousands of less talented or less dedicated or just younger/newer to the sport skaters who want to participate, or the hundreds or thousands (but not millions) of diehard ice dance fans who want to follow it, should be denied the opportunity. If the sport doesn't exist at grassroots levels now, it will never reach elite levels in the future.

    Opportunities to perform in shows, for money or maybe TV fame, could be another incentive to develop the skills to a high level, but that would be show business, not sport, even if shows were structured in the form of a contest/competition.

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    I'm sorry but I prefer to watch a skater with jumps and dance basis instead of a dance solo. I don't find interesting this kind of skating or, in better words, I don't think it has the potential to attract, it's too limited.... so why not a jump contest too?

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    The Broadmoor Summer Competition includes a jump competition. It is a lot of fun, and it is available for on-line viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    The Broadmoor Summer Competition includes a jump competition. It is a lot of fun, and it is available for on-line viewing.
    really? =O
    how does it take place? every skater does a single jump one by one or they show all their abilities and who jumps the most/better wins?

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    http://www.broadmoorskatingclub.com/...nouncement.pdf

    The rules are on page 13 of the above file.

    For seniors, each competitor has 5 minutes to complete the assignex jumps. No music is used.

    Every jump is executed twice, and the best one is judged. The skater may choose not to do his second attempt at a given jump, but must signal the ref that he will not do the second jump.

    For seniors, the jumps are:
    Double or triple axel
    double or triple lutz out of footwork
    2 jump combination jump-quads, triples, doubles of the skater's choice
    All jumps must be performed as described by the skater/coach on the sheet filled in prior to the event

    Judging is 6.0, majority rules.

    Jason won this year

    There is also a spin challenge event and a compulsory moves event

    Events are competed at all skill levels, but the jump requirements are different for different levels.
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 07-09-2014 at 10:48 AM.

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    thank you
    In my mind I was thinking something different... but 5 minutes to complete jumps with no music... mmmh... it doesn't seem so appealing
    I'll try to find some videos!

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