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I'd say when he hits it, probably Hanyu has the best quad - his quad in his SP at the Olympics was MONEY.
Oh man I thought this was so funny. Perfect phrasing.
I'd say when he hits it, probably Hanyu has the best quad - his quad in his SP at the Olympics was MONEY.
I hope we will see quad loop battle soon, if not this season then the one after that. Since I've heard Javi and Yuzu both can land quad loop now. What a pity no clip of Javi's quad loop yet, but for sure I think Javi's quad loop would be very beautiful if he lands it.
Here is 2 of Yuzu's quad loop http://instagram.com/p/qlgTmgJY1Y/
Han Yan's 3A is definitely the best. But does he have a long preparation for the jumps? He is still young and I think his jumps will get stronger.So as many others I also think that Hanyu and Chan are definitely among the best. However, when I watched TEB 2013 live, it was Han Yan who impressed me the most with his jumps, 3A and 4T included. It is not as visible on the videos but I was surprised how with the 3-turn before the 4T he gained so much speed in so little time. It was this final acceleration and the distance his jumps covered that were so good. As we are discussing the 4T I'm not so sure I'd put him before Hanyu or Chan but in my opinion he had the best 3A of all men.
See, I'm not a snob, and I don't mind being able to see a jump coming (though I do hate stalking). Whether it has transitions in and out is irrelevant if the jump is rubbish.
I don't know why we're factoring in transitions into 4T when Chan doesn't do them either. He used to try them, but it just made his quad inconsistent, so he gave up on the transitions (hence why his quad became more consistent). Mind you, it's a move I support, since I don't see the point of transition-transition-fall.
Hanyu does have the most difficult 3A entry, though I prefer his 3A over Han Yan's for a different reason: I like Hanyu's more classic arc, as opposed to Han Yan's long, low one.
A poorly executed jump is obviously poor regardless of the entrance, however a skater should still be lauded for attempting a harder entry into the jump.
No, they should go and work on the jump. No skater should ever be lauded for falling off a jump or screwing it up just because he does a bunch of transitions into it.
Li Chengjiang... pure jumping technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGRFHRF--cs
See, I'm not a snob, and I don't mind being able to see a jump coming (though I do hate stalking). Whether it has transitions in and out is irrelevant if the jump is rubbish.
I understand what you're saying, but all of the men we're discussing have beautiful jumps in the first place. None of them are rubbish, so I don't consider it snobbish for people to use transitional moves into the jumps as one of the factors for what makes that particular jump the best to them. Some may value shape of the arc (Hanyu versus Han's 3A), some the posture coming out of it (Ten), consistency (Plushenko), combinations (for quads, Plushenko/Chan) or transitions.
Oh my goodness. Thanks so much for sharing that, that quad is seriously one of the best figure skating jumps I have ever seen performed. GeeeeezAgree. I had the pleasure of seeing this jump many times in person.
The explosive height, distance, tightness of rotation made this the perfect 4T. His 4S was more technically correct that Goebel's, too.
Originally Posted by jan
Li Chengjiang... pure jumping technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGRFHRF--cs
Thank you for sharing. Not a good case for 6.0 scoring
And it looked so easy. What a pity for him...It's funny, when the thread was mentioned, I spent a second thinking about Chengjiang Li, but then resorted to obvious choices like Hanyu and Chan. That quad was a beauty and with tricky footwork going into it, and no hesitation.
Yes, DEFINITELY not a good case for 6.0. He was first up, hence the low scores, but for a technical program those should have been 5.5+ across the board.