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    Thank you Skatedreamer. I thought I was the only one that felt that way. I, too, appreciate the flexibility, etc. but I just think it's an ugly position for anyone to be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatedreamer View Post
    I'm probably a minority of one here but TBH, I think Bielmanns are unattractive no matter how well they're done. I appreciate the flexibility and skill needed to execute them -- just don't like 'em. Please don't throw things...
    It's okay, skatedreamer. There are plenty of spins I don't like

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    Quote Originally Posted by satine94 View Post
    It's okay, skatedreamer. There are plenty of spins I don't like
    My least favorite spin - the spin where they are bent at the waist and their legs are in a V position... who looked at that spin and said yes that looks good, put it in competition. A good example serafima sakhanovich, it's a 2:55:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Duyc2RkOk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amei View Post
    My least favorite spin - the spin where they are bent at the waist and their legs are in a V position... who looked at that spin and said yes that looks good, put it in competition. A good example serafima sakhanovich, it's a 2:55:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Duyc2RkOk
    The A-spin? Yeah, I agree. Most of the men do it though...

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    Yeah, when it first appeared (I can't remember who it was..) wasn't it referred to as a butt spin for some time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    The A-spin? Yeah, I agree. Most of the men do it though...
    I agree, its not aesthetically pleasing to me but many people who aren't flexible (mainly the men) use it so they can hit the levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meoima View Post
    Biellmann herself.
    This!!! http://youtu.be/x1_QiK85KRg (4:35 mark)

    Lets not forget Nathalie Kreig!!! This discussion would not be complete without her mentioned. Check out the 3:00 mark and at 4:08 :

    http://youtu.be/B9dsRFarP1A

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    Quote Originally Posted by satine94 View Post
    Yeah, when it first appeared (I can't remember who it was..) wasn't it referred to as a butt spin for some time?
    Was Emanuel Sandhu the first to do the A-spin?

    Here's Nobunari Oda.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_f5jP02gxLm...bunari+oda.jpg

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    Appreciate the support on Bielmanns, guys. Much thanks!

    Agree re: the A-spin. It's not just that it isn't pretty -- it's also just kind of meh, which is worse. Whatever else Bielmanns are, they ain't boring!

    Just took a look @ the pic of Oda. Oh dear. Not exactly his best angle, is it?

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    I'd say Mao has my favorite classic Biellmann position. I say classic because the free leg isn't over-extended nor is the back position too extreme. She gets a really beautiful classic teardrop position.

    I think Mirai and Elena Radionova have really beautiful hyper-extended Biellmanns. They both achieve a more vertical position with the free leg as well as an extreme bend in their back...they basically put their head on their butt in the spin. Insane flexibility!!
    Mirai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ns0mCEtuMM#t=162
    Elena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCenVg-QIZk#t=207

    Not to be outdone in the insane flexibility department, then there's Julia. I don't even consider this spin a Biellmann because unlike in the Biellmann where both hands are gripping the boot of the free leg, Julia grips her shin and pulls it straight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdsHy2X7QGY#t=178. I usually call it a needle spin because it's like the needle they do in dance. Like Julia's position the free leg is extended straight and the leg is held with both hands. What makes Julia's spins so impressive is the fact that she doesn't lose speed as she transitions up into it, but actually gains speed. I've seen other needle spins but hers is by far the most impressive, even though I don't always find it that attractive. She definitely wasn't the first to do it but she is popularizing it (for those fortunate enough to be that flexible) and she does it best.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch View Post
    Lets not forget Nathalie Kreig!!!
    Never! Krieg was AWESOME! Her speed and centering were redonkulous as were her positions. I really want to see someone do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCFJR2mBdKA#t=119. It's like a compressed Biellmann...it's still a version of it but it's something a little different than what we see now.

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    I like Radionova's, Sotnikova ^^)

    MCM for male.

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    I mean Biellmann hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by makaihime View Post
    I absolutely love those who can form a tear drop shape. I think that's the most important characteristic in a Biellmann

    So beautiful
    I second to that. Also like Biellmann's, I like skaters who can keep skating leg straight. Many of them have their knees bend. Not so pretty to look at.

    My favourite are Mao and Radionova. But Mirai's Layback combination is amazing. At least her body changed didn't effect her spins. Surprisingly Ashley has a pretty Biellman.

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    So true. I don't think anyone likes the but-spin.
    Shoma Uno did a variation that I would like to see used more because it looks better. The free leg is crossed behind the spinning leg and held.

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    I like Irina's Biellman spins with foot change. They are spectacular!

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