Lipnitskaya vs. Edmunds
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I've been a figure skating fan for several decades now and I based on watching figure skating for years I believe Julia has a body type and musicality that are better received by a majority of fans and judges compared to the body type and musicality of Polina. I know this is a sweeping generalization. To combat this I think Polina and her support team need to do a much better job of packaging her (including more mature hair, make up, and costumes and less generic music) so that she will seem less like the awkward Bambi and more like a polished, elegant athlete. In terms of who is better, right now Julia is the more successful of the two hands down. But time will tell which of the two will have a better career. They are both about to have the weight of expectations of fans and their federations to contend with, Julie experienced this some last year but for Polina it will be a new experience. I also think time will tell how much taller they each will become and how much weight they each will gain over the next few years which ultimately will have an impact on their figure skating (I know this isn't popular to discuss but it is a reality). Personally, I like them both, although I am more drawn to Julia. However, I will be surprised (pleasantly surprised) if either lady is ranked #1 for their country by the time 2018 rolls around.
of Polina made me to have big expectations with her, I wish the best to both of them. I can not wait for this new season :yay:I agree that the coming few seasons will be critical for her. Her 'colt' like long elegant limbs create a delicacy that is enchanting. As is inevitable as she matures, hopefully her skating will evolve in synchrony.
With Julia, her flexibility has been a source of awe for years but I perpetually find myself worrying about injuries. Hope she can avoid them.
With Julia, her flexibility has been a source of awe for years but I perpetually find myself worrying about injuries. Hope she can avoid them.
Yulia has this star factor,the "watch me" quality to her. Polina lacks it. When you watch young Mao and Yuna, you know that they are something special - the same goes to Yulia for methe matter of preferance only
I agree with you for now but I think Polina has the potential star quality because she exudes a a tough, positive and and confident attitude. We'll just have to see she can develop that sort of magneticism that is hard to define.
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Which is why comparing them is not very productive IMO. Yulia is the highest ranked female skater still competing and she worked very hard for it. Polina skated in two senior ISU events and is yet to turn in a clean competition while Yulia has more clean competitions without falls than not nor has she ever finished lower than fifth with the olympics the only ISU event she didnt medal in. The experience alone makes comparing the two kind of pointless to me. Do you think apples or oranges are better?
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I'm sorry but this is completely wrong.
The fist time I saw Polina completing was in 2011 and that's only the first time that I saw her, maybe she's been competing for even more time.
Further more I don't think "stardom" is sth that should/could be really discussed here cause
if it was about that, there wouldn't be any discussion needed.
I think this is very obvious who is better known/ more popular.
That's not what makes a great skater, and these two both have many other things that make them shine
But like I already said and others have stated: They are different levels, different waters.It really is well said "like comparing apples and oranges"
Yulia put it all out there too soon imo. She was packaged so brilliantly last season one can't help but wonder " Where does she have to go now?" I suspect jumps will become somewhat problematic for her and that unrealistic expectations will lead to disappointment. So Yulia stagnant and , perhaps, declining some and Polina moving upward somewhat. That being said, Polina's choice of lp music for this season does nothing for her and doesn't make for something memorable, no matter how well she skates to it. What was her team thinking?
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I understand you. Some people like to count the chickens before the eggs hatch.Yes....they should both just quit.
Here we go again - Yulia and puberty
I think she is a skater that will fight back if puberty becomes a problem; 2 seasons ago she dealt with a growth spurt; she came back the following season better.Yes....they should both just quit.
That would not be a rational thing to do. Even with small decline or stagnancy (Yulia) or small improvement (Polina), they would still be among the best, so no reason to quit.
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Ok. I agree its just you seemed so doom and gloom. Me personally....outside of Yulia and Elena.....Polina might be the only other female skater that I would consider getting in a plane and booking a trip to go see. Just saying....I never and still don't feel that way about Gracie.
Now if Mao returns.....:yay:
I'm sorry but this is completely wrong.
The fist time I saw Polina completing was in 2011 and that's only the first time that I saw her, maybe she's been competing for even more time.
Further more I don't think "stardom" is sth that should/could be really discussed here cause
if it was about that, there wouldn't be any discussion needed.
I think this is very obvious who is better known/ more popular.
That's not what makes a great skater, and these two both have many other things that make them shine
But like I already said and others have stated: They are different levels, different waters.It really is well said "like comparing apples and oranges"
OK. Yulia has been competing INTERNATIONALLY for 3 years, Polina has been competing INTERNATIONALLY for only one.
You don't become a STAR by competing at home.
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I realize people just want something to discuss and be contentious about but this is a pretty silly discussion if you're talking about the future. No one knows how either of these young ladies is going to do and it's all speculation. For me, time on the international scene doesn't mean anything if your program sucks or you can't skate it. I think both girls have already gone through puberty and had their growth spurt so that shouldn't be an issue. They are not 12 or 13 year olds. Both of them are gifted skaters but both will have packaging issues this year. For Yulia it's going to be hard to come back from the iconic Schindler's List. She made a powerful statement with that program but it was almost too old for her. For Polina, she was outfitted like a little girl with silly braids in her hair and forgettable music. Hopefully her team will step up this year. We all know it isn't just the skating skills anymore.
I'm anxious to see how both of them do and then discuss it.
I'm anxious to see how both of them do and then discuss it.
More important than all of above are quotes I read, hear, watch all the time - for example on TV:
- "We haven't really followed figure skating till now, but with Yulia we have to now, don't we? (laughter)" - older couple on the street,
- "I would like to win gold medal spinning on ice like Yulia (smile)" - little girl on the rink,
or internet:
- "I know nothing about skating, but this girl is so cool!",
- "God bless you for posting subs. She has so many fans in North American. Spasibo!!!",
- "I don't watch figure skating, but I watch her."
^This^ is maybe greatest victory of Yulia Lipnitskaya.
And not only hers.
- "We haven't really followed figure skating till now, but with Yulia we have to now, don't we? (laughter)" - older couple on the street,
- "I would like to win gold medal spinning on ice like Yulia (smile)" - little girl on the rink,
or internet:
- "I know nothing about skating, but this girl is so cool!",
- "God bless you for posting subs. She has so many fans in North American. Spasibo!!!",
- "I don't watch figure skating, but I watch her."
^This^ is maybe greatest victory of Yulia Lipnitskaya.
And not only hers.
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