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Sexual harassement in Japan

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Alain

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sport/sex-harassment-scandal/1321890.html

TOKYO: A sexual harassment scandal was gripping Japan's skating world on Wednesday (Aug 20) after pictures emerged of a young heartthrob Olympian in the clutches of the 49-year-old boss of his sport. Snapshots purportedly taken at a party held after the Winter Olympics closed in Sochi show skater-turned-politician Seiko Hashimoto hugging and kissing the now 28-year-old Daisuke Takahashi.

In one photo Takahashi, dubbed the "Prince on Ice" by his huge band of female followers, appears to be turning his face away from the older woman as the two danced at an alcohol-fuelled party in February. Hashimoto, a married mother-of-three and a former Olympic speed skater and cyclist, was Japan's chef de mission in Sochi.

"As athletes and officials have opportunities to socialise with those in foreign teams, they "hug and kiss (each other) very naturally", she said. "If this invited misunderstanding from other people, I regret it and think I should be careful," she said.


Google game me two sources of the pictures in question:
1. Daisuke Fan Forum (stroll down the page), probably with the recap of the original article http://daisuke-takahashi.megabb.com/t960p390-news-topics-2013-14
http://twitpic.com/eaguwa
2. In colors http://www.enews163.com/2014/08/20/...japanese-man-skating-champion-kiss-48080.html taken from some Chinese source that I can't read http://news.163.com/14/0820/11/A43DG1DL00014JB6.html

Interesting how this woman blames foreign influece for what she did. Has anybody ever seen a European or North American official, male of female, doing anything like that to a skater, male or female? :rolleye: I am sure he or she would get fired with disgrace. To my knowledge the Japanese legal practice doesn't have a solid history of platform for sexual harassement cases. It's more likely the whole story will eventually get dismissed from the radar sooner or later. Therefore, if this woman indeed gets her stairs up in Tokyo Olympics, I would recommend any attractive foreign athletes, like swimmers or gymnasts, not to stay with her in the same room even with the witnesses present, except for the official ceremonies. Otherwise, your foreign influence will be the one to blame. :laugh:

The whole story is quite disgusting actually, disturbing I would say and not funny at all.
 

aftertherain

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First of all, the photo doesn't look like it was taken behind a plant or a tree or at night where "celebrity investigative reporters" lurk, waiting to pounce on a well-known figure. It looks like it was taken directly head-on at an official event of sorts. Just by the awkward posturing of the kiss, it doesn't seem romantic in any way, and looks to me as if Ms. Hashimoto was telling the truth. The kiss is at awkward angle too; close enough to look like a head-on lip kiss if you were to just glance at the picture--but if you look at it closely, not really. Anyway, I think the gossip mags are spinning this situation completely out of proportion.

So no, Alain, I respectfully disagree with your opinion. There doesn't seem to be anything romantic or scandalous going on here--unless you count culture shock.
 

ioanna

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I wasn't sure whether to post this story on the forum at all because the source is a gossip magazine trying to get benefits from a scandal but as Alain pointed out, this stopped being a baseless, fabricated story from the moment clear evidence (those couple of pictures) appeared.

Before those pictures appeared I was only skeptical and suspicious of the way Hashimoto was handling the situation: first she denied it happened, then she said "that's what people do in the west, they hug and kiss", then she said it was "normal behavior between friends" and lastly "the kiss was like that from a mother to her son". I found her way of justifying herself mindblowing and found her arguments at least as disgraceful as the pictures themselves. In my opinion, this is not the kind of behavior the director of a federation should have.

Daisuke denied it was harassment of any kind and I think he doesn't want another scandal shaking up his life at this point. He probably wants everyone to leave him alone and rightfully so. The story was only published now because apparently Hashimoto is one of the candidates for the Prime Minister's cabinet and Daisuke was caught in the middle of this political game. They kept it for the right time.

I am still in shock over what's happening and as a fan I can only support him and hope he will find peace in his sabbatical, away from prying eyes.
 

Amei

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her comment a hugging and kissing is what they do in the west... don't know what country she is referring to but I'm from the U.S. and unless you are family or close friends with someone we don't hug and we certainly don't kiss.
 

Darjaille

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her comment a hugging and kissing is what they do in the west... don't know what country she is referring to but I'm from the U.S. and unless you are family or close friends with someone we don't hug and we certainly don't kiss.

I'm from Central/Eastern Europe and we hug and kiss (cheeks) when meeting someone for the first time, so that's the kind of culture she was probably referring to.

We don't know the truth so we shouldn't judge, I think. Daisuke doesn't want to make a big deal out of it either.
 

mich2

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From this angle it does look like she forced herself on him. http://twitpic.com/eaguwa
It's not fun. :unsure:
This woman is pathetic! An old obasan with some executive power wants to kiss s young man, one of the sex symbols in the country. He doesnt want to, he moves his face away, his body, but she insists! She wants. She WANTS! Lol. She will be a manga caricature in the next edition. How old are her kids? I hope they wont be teased in schools. Children can be so cruel.
 

Meoima

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This woman is pathetic! An old obasan with some executive power wants to kiss s young man, one of the sex symbols in the country. He doesnt want to, he moves his face away, his body, but she insists! She wants. She WANTS! Lol. She will be a manga caricature in the next edition. How old are her kids? I hope they wont be teased in schools. Children can be so cruel.
If her kids are still in middle and highschool, then I am afraid they will get abused to a certain degree. Or maybe her grand children. I have heard a lot about abuse stories at school in Japan.
 

MaiKatze

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The sports section in our local newspaper that features figure skating stories once in a blue moon decided that this story was news worthy and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw an article about it. Sex sells. I hate that the world works like this. And surprise, surprise they called Daisuke a former speed skating World Champion. :rolleye:
 

Sam-Skwantch

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Speed Skater(!)...:bang: Makes you wonder if they verified the rest of the facts involved here. Poor Dai.
 

noidont

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Doesn't look like anything to me. Daisuke has expressed over a few occasions that he is interested in mature women. At least one of the photos didn't look forced at all.
 

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I wonder what these people would think of the way Mishin grabs Zhenya (and Artur, and Liza) by the scruff of the neck and smooches their cheek so forcefully after an especially good program?
 

Pattina

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As ioanap pointed out, the magazine is a gossip newspaper used to create scandals...and sex always sells good!!

It's the same mag which issued the "Fake Beethoven" scoop just a week or so before Sochi, again causing troubles to Daisuke: in case ISU and/or Authority prevented the use of Sonatina, he would have been forced to retire from Oly, because he did not have enough time to prepare an other program. Indeed, this foul mag always chooses the right timing!!

Hashimoto san did not behave well, that's positive. IMO she drank more than allowed: alchool prevented her to think coherently and to discern "the right limit" - from this point of view it's correct to bias her. In addition, she denied the occurrence just worsening her position and "opening the door" to gossip.

Anyway I trust Daisuke when he says (through his manager) that he did not feel abused or molested. Dai is sensitive and IMO he understood clearly the "tipsy" situation she was in and decided not to put her in a worse embarrassing situation shouting and/or pushing her away in a rude way in front of so many people. He accepted to be kissed on lips and that's all!!

Poor Dai-chan, caught in a "ad hoc" scandal created by foul press to damage Hashimoto san's public political figure.

Let him skate serene in his last shows before his DORON time!! He needs rest. I'm confident that he is strong and will overcome this annoying situation, with the great amount of love his true friends and fans will pour over him at "Friends On Ice"
 

Alain

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I wonder what these people would think of the way Mishin grabs Zhenya (and Artur, and Liza) by the scruff of the neck and smooches their cheek so forcefully after an especially good program?
I would prefer Frank Carrol and Gracie Gold. We would be on page 5? 10 by now? :biggrin:
 

Alain

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Daisuke denied it was harassment of any kind and I think he doesn't want another scandal shaking up his life at this point. He probably wants everyone to leave him alone
It's not uncomman for victims of power abuse, regrettably. It is called power abuse for a reason.
It's a good test for JOC. If she gets away with it, no athelete should feel safe in her or any Japanese official's presence.
 

Krunchii

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As ioanap pointed out, the magazine is a gossip newspaper used to create scandals...and sex always sells good!!

It's the same mag which issued the "Fake Beethoven" scoop just a week or so before Sochi, again causing troubles to Daisuke: in case ISU and/or Authority prevented the use of Sonatina, he would have been forced to retire from Oly, because he did not have enough time to prepare an other program. Indeed, this foul mag always chooses the right timing!!

Hashimoto san did not behave well, that's positive. IMO she drank more than allowed: alchool prevented her to think coherently and to discern "the right limit" - from this point of view it's correct to bias her. In addition, she denied the occurrence just worsening her position and "opening the door" to gossip.

Anyway I trust Daisuke when he says (through his manager) that he did not feel abused or molested. Dai is sensitive and IMO he understood clearly the "tipsy" situation she was in and decided not to put her in a worse embarrassing situation shouting and/or pushing her away in a rude way in front of so many people. He accepted to be kissed on lips and that's all!!

Poor Dai-chan, caught in a "ad hoc" scandal created by foul press to damage Hashimoto san's public political figure.

Let him skate serene in his last shows before his DORON time!! He needs rest. I'm confident that he is strong and will overcome this annoying situation, with the great amount of love his true friends and fans will pour over him at "Friends On Ice"

Fake Beethoven thing was real though, the original composer was the one who came out and exposed the fake one who admitted to his wrongdoings, it came at a very bad time but if one of Japan's top composer's was lying that way I would want to know too.

Anyway the Shukan Bunshin is infamous in Japan for revealing scandals and blowing things out of proportion. I equate them to like Perez Hilton or TMZ or something, I'd never read it. The 3rd source is pretty much a google translated version of the Chinese article, the grammar kills me.
 

ioanna

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Daisuke held a press conference after the rehearsals for Friends On Ice and I suppose he spoke out on this subject.

We will hear his side of the story soon.
 

starlight97

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Maybe I'm not skeptical enough, but to me this isn't sexual harassment. ....
If she had groped his body or tried to force a kiss on his mouth yes, but my trainer kissed me on the cheek quiet forcefully as well after I got a great result at a competition... nobody here would even get the idea to call this sexual harassment :D
Don't you think this gossip magazine exaggerated it? You know when a german actress here had to loose weight to portray a woman suffering from cancer, the gossip magazines also screamed : " SHE HAS ANOREXIA !!"
You know what I mean? Maybe I'm wrong and it's indeed serious, it just doesn't sound/look like it to me.
 
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