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    130th Kentucky Derby this coming Saturday!

    I am getting so excited and can hardly believe it's almost here. Limehouse is my Derby horse but he needs to be close to the pace the whole way or he will get stuck in traffic. Not sure if he will be able to go the distance but his form is peaking at the right time.

    Twenty horses are expected to enter.

    Imperialisn, a gorgeous grey, is trained by a 21-year-old woman, Kristin Mulhall, the youngest trainer since the 1800s.

    Pollards Vision is blind in one eye.

    Smarty Jones is unbeaten in six starts.

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    This field seems to be so wide open this year. Imperialism has "sunken eye" which severely limits his peripheral vision. He used to freak when a horse came up and passed him on the outside. Kristin figured out which type of blinders for him, and he seems to be steadily improving since.

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    The Kentucky Derby run should be a very exciting race-horse competition, like it is every year. Personally I am rooting for Imperialism. Poor Pollards Vision; I feel sorry for him being partially blind. :(

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    Imperialism is 11(3-3-1) $74,605 lifetime. Most recent race was 3rd in the Santa Anita Derby. He did win the San Rafael over Lion Heart.

    Some KY Derby prep races:

    Count Fleet Stakes: Smarty Jones, Risky Trick, Mr. Spock

    Santa Catalina: St. Averil, Lucky Pulpit, Master David

    Holy Bull Stakes: Second Of June, Silver Wagon, Friend's Lake

    San Vicente: Imperialism, Hosco, Consecrate

    Sham Stakes: Master David, Borrego, Preachinatthebar

    Sam F. Davis: Kaufy Mate, The Cliff's Edge, Zakocity

    Fountain Of Youth: Read The Footnotes, Second of June

    Hutchenson: Limehouse, Deputy Storm, Saratoga County

    Southwest Stakes: Smarty Jones

    San Rafael: Imperialism, Lion Heart

    Louisiana Derby: Wimbledon, Borrego, Pollard's Vision

    Florida Derby: Friend's Lake, Value Plus, The Cliff's Edge

    San Felipe Stakes: Preachinatthebar

    Tampa Bay Derby: Limehouse

    Gotham: Saratoga County

    Rebel: Smarty Jones, Purge, Pro Prado

    Santa Anita Derby: Castledale, Imperialism, Rock Hard Ten

    Illinois Derby: Pollard's Vision, Song of the Sword

    Toyota Blue Grass: The Cliff's Edge, Lion Heart, Limehouse

    Wood Memorial: Tapit, Master David, Eddington

    Arkansas Derby: Smarty jones, Borrego, Pro Prado

    Bay Shore: Forest Danger

    Coolemore Lexington: Quinton's Gold Rush, Fire Slam

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    Thanks for all the stats Johar!

    I love the KY Derby, and the Triple Crown, even though I don't really keep up with racing the rest of the year anymore. The last few years have been so torturous for Triple crown watchers..........I keep thinking "This is gonna be the year" and then it's just...not. Is it now 27 years since the last Triple Crown winner?

    This year I am not even sure who I am rooting for, although I am a sucker for a backstory like Imperialism's (also like grey horses ).

    Woo-hoo!

    guinevere

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    I thought Real Quiet had it. he was winning the Belmont easily and I was screaming with joy....it was finally happening....then out of the courner of the screen came Victory Gallop. Nailed Real Quiet at the wire in a photo finish. Margin of winning was something like 2 inches. A nose.

    Sunday Silence in 1989 was bred to go 1 1/2 miles, but floundered on Belmont's track surface. I always loved Sunday Silence...cheated death twice, was unwanted at sales, overlooked by prospective buyers. A true rags-to riches Cinderella story. Also became Japan's #1 sire after he was exported. Despite his credentials Hancock couldn't sell any shares to Sunday Silence. So Japan offered to buy him and off he went. Stayed there until he died and was a outstanding sire.

    Funny Cide...only gelding to almost win the Triple Crown. He was good for the sports image. The underdog owned by working class men and not a corporation. Was never a big fan of his but respected him.

    Silver Charm.....woo man...I cried after he lost the Belmont. He didn't see Touch Gold coming until it was too late.....So close.....

    War Emblem......well, he tried. He seemed poised to take it all and then that longshot Sarava took it home. War Emblem floundered and finished way up the track.

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    Originally posted by Johar
    Funny Cide...only gelding to almost win the Triple Crown. He was good for the sports image. The underdog owned by working class men and not a corporation. Was never a big fan of his but respected him.
    If Funny Cide had won, we would have gone down in the history books for so many reasons. We'd probably have a movie about him coming out this summer!

    I also loved Sunday Silence.

    guinevere

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    Originally posted by guinevere
    I also loved Sunday Silence.

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    Absolutely loved Sunday Silence and want to do a big web page in dedication to him. I want to use photos of him on there but have to have permission from photographers or risk getting sued.

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    What upsets me is when these marvelous creatures are retired to stud, and then find out that after they have served their purpose, they end up as dinner. I'm not trying to make judgements on what other cultures view as food, but for a horse as magnificent as a retired thoroughbred champion (e.g. Ferdinand) to not be able to live out his life in a comfortable retirement somehow seems unfair.

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    "Old Friends" is an organization set up where these stallions are brought home (to the USA) to a farm in Kentucky and retired. Very nice organization. To daughters(or grand daughters) of ferdinand were the farm's first horses.

    There's also Rerun and the United Pegasus Fund.

    BTW, I got to see Ferdinand when I was in Kentucky. Beautiful stallion. Unfortunately, nobody in Japan even asked if somebody in the USA would want him back. Not picking on Japan, a country I like, but there was a complete lack of communication. Japan is scarce of space and doesn't have room for extra stallions. Exceller, then Ferdinand.

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    I know nothing about horseracing, but I'll be watching and keeping my fingers crossed for your horse, Johar.......42

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    Thanks.

    I still like Limehouse, want him to win but don't think he will. Win or lose I'll always like him.

    Castledale is growing on me, maybe because his owner is cute, LOL.

    Friend's Lake could pull it off. Has the ideal pedigree.

    Would be happy if Smarty Jones won. He's undefeated as of now.

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    I have a soft spot in my heart for Imperialism and Pollard's Visiosn (Just a sucker for anyone that has to over come a physical challenge and still compete at elite levels). I also have a soft sport for Smarty Jones - gotta love a Pennsylvania bred! And of course, Friends Lake and Read the Footnotes (GO NEW YORK BREDS!). what can I say - I may be a lousy handicapper, but am a softie about horses. I remember Carry Back (way back when) and since then- I love the underdog (or underhorse) and love to see them beat those "blue bloods'. (Hmm, I also love Secretariat - though what's not to love about perfection, blue blood or not!)

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    The field, in post-position order, with (sire), jockey, trainer, and morning-line odds:

    1. Limehouse (Grand Slam), Jose Santos, Todd Pletcher; 30-to-1;

    2. Song of the Sword (Unbridled’s Song), Norberto Arroyo Jr., Jennifer Pedersen; 30-to-1;

    3. Lion Heart (Tale of the Cat), Mike Smith, Patrick Biancone 10-to-1;

    4. Action This Day (Kris S.), David Flores, Richard Mandella, 30-to-1;

    5. Wimbledon--SCRATCHED;

    6. Friends Lake (A.P. Indy), Richard Migliore, John Kimmel, 15-to-1;

    7. Minister Eric (Old Trieste), Pat Day, Richard Mandella, 30-to-1;

    8. Master David (Grand Slam), Alex Solis, Bobby Frankel, 12-to-1;

    9. St Averil--SCRATCHED

    10. Imperialism (Langfuhr), Kent Desormeaux, Kristin Mulhall 15-to-1;

    11. The Cliff’s Edge (Gulch), Shane Sellers, Nick Zito 4-to-1;

    12. Borrego (El Prado [Ire]), Victor Espinoza, Beau Greely 20-to-1;

    13. Birdstone (Grindstone), Edgar Prado, Nick Zito 50-to-1;

    14. Read the Footnotes (Smoke Glacken), Robby Albarado, Richard Violette 12-to-1;

    15. Smarty Jones (Elusive Quality), Stewart Elliott, John Servis, 9-to-2;

    16. Castledale (Ire) (Peintre Celebre), Jose Valdivia Jr., Jeff Mullins 15-to-1;

    17. Pollard’s Vision (Carson City), John Velazquez, Todd Pletcher, 20-to-1;

    18. Tapit (Pulpit), Ramon Dominguez, Michael Dickinson, 8-to-1;

    19. Pro Prado (El Prado [Ire]), John McKee, Bob Holthus, 30-to-1; and

    20. Quintons Gold Rush (Wild Rush), Corey Nakatani, Steve Asmussen, 20-to-1.

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    Originally posted by bronxgirl
    What upsets me is when these marvelous creatures are retired to stud, and then find out that after they have served their purpose, they end up as dinner. I'm not trying to make judgements on what other cultures view as food, but for a horse as magnificent as a retired thoroughbred champion (e.g. Ferdinand) to not be able to live out his life in a comfortable retirement somehow seems unfair.
    Here's the URL for Old Friends:
    http://www.oldfriendsequine.org/

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