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Hanyu diagnosed with urachal remnant problem; needs month treatment

GermaricanMix

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^But the problem with that is he originally has a stomach condition that prevents him from keeping a large quantity of food down. There are a of things his stomach can't keep down and his mother even had to get a very specific meal plan from a nutritionist in order to get him to eat enough so he has enough nutritions just to maintain his current weight. In his case, its not a matter of just eating more and gaining weight because he simply can't even if he wanted to.

His body naturally just isn't made for doing physically demanding sports IMO :no:

Does he actually have a condition where he CAN'T eat more or is he just not a big eater? I always thought he was just very picky (which I can totally relate to)
 

Sai Bon

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Does he actually have a condition where he CAN'T eat more or is he just not a big eater? I always thought he was just very picky (which I can totally relate to)

From what I've read in the Japanese media, he has a digestive system that is a bit slow to start up and so he often feels full before he's eaten very much. So he has the opposite problem to most people in that he has to work hard to eat enough.
 

cruzceleste

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Does he actually have a condition where he CAN'T eat more or is he just not a big eater? I always thought he was just very picky (which I can totally relate to)
He has a condition, if I remember correctly we never got a name of it.
He needs to made pretty small meals and avoid grease food, sodas and alcohol.
He worked with a nutritionist in the year before the Olympics to improeve.

Sure if you have time you can revise the fan thread around 70-100 pages there is information about it.
 
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lbc2138

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Does he actually have a condition where he CAN'T eat more or is he just not a big eater? I always thought he was just very picky (which I can totally relate to)

I would think the latter. He seems like the type to only eat what is necessary, no more but maybe less.

Anyways, wishing him a speedy and complication-free recovery! I also just got injured while training and I can understand how frustrating it may be when time is ticking. I hope he rests well and his body is near 100 percent if he choses to go through with Worlds :)
 

Kalina

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Does he actually have a condition where he CAN'T eat more or is he just not a big eater? I always thought he was just very picky (which I can totally relate to)

Not unless you would consider 'being a naturally thin person' a illness :) Nor does he have a lot of things he can't keep down or anything like that, like some were saying above. He's first of all a picky eater (again, not an illness). Then he has what is called a lazy stomach, which means his stomach start moving slower than other and makes him feel full immediately. A couple of years ago they got the help of a nutritionist, and that fixed the issue, so now he eats as much as he needs and is able to build stamina, does not get sick etc.


I realize there is a part of Yuzuru's fandom that is very anxious over his health, but perhaps it would be better not to overexaggerate, okay?

@StitchMoney, in the most polite way possible: 'no' to your entire post, for the reasons I just wrote (which I realize you couldn't possibly know about, so don't worry).
 
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GermaricanMix

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Not unless you would consider 'being a naturally thin person' a illness :) Nor does he have a lot of things he can't keep down or anything like that, like some were saying above. He's first of all a picky eater (again, not an illness). Then he has what is called a lazy stomach, which means his stomach start moving slower than other and makes him feel full immediately. A couple of years ago they got the help of a nutritionist, and that fixed the issue, so now he eats as much as he needs and is able to build stamina, does not get sick etc.


I realize there is a part of Yuzuru's fandom that is very anxious over his health, but perhaps it would be better not to overexaggerate, okay?

Thanx everyone for the info! I didn't know lazy stomach was a thing, that sounds like it could be annoying. Glad the nutritionist helped him figure it out and it's fixed now.
 

karne

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I think similarly to StitchMonkey, but my concern for some time is that he does not have adequate muscle to support his joints and general body structure while doing such a high-impact sport.

I know in cricket the first thing that generally happens when a young fast bowler gets a stress fracture in his back is that he comes back a lot heavier, because he has to build up the muscles in his chest and back to support his spine.
 

yay

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It doesn't look to me that he lacks muscles, it just appears he has no fat. Ok, there's some around the cheekbones. In general he'd probably benefit if he had more "meat"(not fat), but I don't think it's that crucial.

ITA with Eclair, I'll just add my 2 cents by mentioning that his knees take considerably less pressure when he lands a jump comparing to the folks whose weight is even a few pounds/kilos bigger.

I was diagnosied with the same abnormality 3 years ago and had a surgery as well. I've been fine ever since.
As far as I know, urachal anomalies are extremely rare.

Wishing Yuzuru the most speedy recovery possible.
 

Meoima

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It doesn't look to me that he lacks muscles, it just appears he has no fat. Ok, there's some around the cheekbones. In general he'd probably benefit if he had more "meat"(not fat), but I don't think it's that crucial.
His body fat is about 3% to 5% of his body. Is that normal if I might ask anyone here who knows well about this matter? When he first moved to Toronto he lost weight and his body fat was 3%. Before this season started they said his body fat was up to 5%. But with 3kg lost due to fatigue I am afraid he might have lost some fat as well.
 

cruzceleste

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I was diagnosied with the same abnormality 3 years ago and had a surgery as well. I've been fine ever since.
As far as I know, urachal anomalies are extremely rare.

Wishing Yuzuru the most speedy recovery possible.

Thank you or sharing. :) Hope you remain well.
 

noskates

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I just remember a program where Kurt Browning was going for physical therapy, etc. because the years of jumping had injured his spine and back. I would hardly call Kurt skinny but he did have a typical skater's body. In the program they talked about the pressure placed on the back when landing, for example, even a 2A. Looking at Kurt in his competitive years and looking at Hanyu's body type......who is going to take the most beating?????
 

yay

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His body fat is about 3% to 5% of his body. Is that normal if I might ask anyone here who knows well about this matter? When he first moved to Toronto he lost weight and his body fat was 3%. Before this season started they said his body fat was up to 5%. But with 3kg lost due to fatigue I am afraid he might have lost some fat as well.
I spoke figuratively("no" fat) but indeed the percentage seems to be very low, lower than I thought. Wow. And ouch.
IIRC, the "essential" body fat(the one you need to protect the organs and for the hormones production) is about 3-5% for men.

ETA: I've just visited wiki, according to it it's 2–5%.
 
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GermaricanMix

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I was diagnosied with the same abnormality 3 years ago and had a surgery as well. I've been fine ever since.
As far as I know, urachal anomalies are extremely rare.

Wishing Yuzuru the most speedy recovery possible.

Glad to hear that! If I may ask, did you feel any different after? 'none of your business' is an acceptable answer :biggrin:
 

Sandpiper

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His body fat is about 3% to 5% of his body. Is that normal if I might ask anyone here who knows well about this matter? When he first moved to Toronto he lost weight and his body fat was 3%. Before this season started they said his body fat was up to 5%. But with 3kg lost due to fatigue I am afraid he might have lost some fat as well.
That is definitely not normal. Far below normal. But I have no idea if it's problematic (or how problematic it is, if so).
 

dress

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I just remember a program where Kurt Browning was going for physical therapy, etc. because the years of jumping had injured his spine and back. I would hardly call Kurt skinny but he did have a typical skater's body. In the program they talked about the pressure placed on the back when landing, for example, even a 2A. Looking at Kurt in his competitive years and looking at Hanyu's body type......who is going to take the most beating?????

During the Olympics, a scientific tv program did episodes about the effects of different sports on the bodies. The specialists said that most figure skaters suffer from lower backpain during their whole career. Some skaters end up with permanent back issues even after retiring. The sport's specialists said that the way the jumps are landed (with arched back and free leg) put an enormous strain on the lower back. Furthermore, it hinders it from properly absorbing the impact of the landing. When the back cannot absorbed the impact, it damages the spine/disks and increases the strain on the knees. They also said that extreme position like the Bielman wasnot good for the back.

It was a very interesting programs. They covered a lot of the sports.
 

fruitbasket

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well I agree that many top sportman have had injuries and surgeries... but it's just too much for him in a short time that make people feel worried.

Let's review the timeline

October: He withdrew from Finlandia because of back pain
November before Cup of China: Kurt Browning said Yuzuru had ankle sprain.
November in Cup of China: Collision, 5 different injuries on his body (head, chin, back, right ankle, left thigh)
December: abdominal surgery, lost 3 kg due to fatigue

I'd say in just about 8 weeks, I don't want this much pain for anyone, not to mention your favourite.

if your list in the above is accurate, why hanyu/ JSF/ coach want continue to compete....no health...no winning........he is already skinny, lost 3 kgggggggg...wowwww
 

Meoima

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if your list in the above is accurate, why hanyu/ JSF/ coach want continue to compete....no health...no winning........he is already skinny, lost 3 kgggggggg...wowwww
This season his health condition are always reported by JSF's statements... so I didn't make it up. It's from my memory and in the fan thread there are still links to more accurate articles, but digging up that fan thread is really a pain. :hopelessness:
 

cruzceleste

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That is definitely not normal. Far below normal. But I have no idea if it's problematic (or how problematic it is, if so).

Is the same level that people that practice sport like athletism, long distance running, gymnast,figure skating have.

Normally a guy is between 10%-20% body fat (for woman is 20%-30%).

Yuzuru will fall into the athletic category. Here is more information.

And BTW, I just put my two cents, I recently find out that I have a hip injury, my doctor said that the fact that I don´t weight much will save me a lot of trouble, because I wouldn´t be forcing my bones and muscle more than what I should. I´m a short distance runner and used to swim, my body fact is 12%.

So I don´t think that more weight will automaticly mean that he will be more healthy.
 
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Kalina

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His body fat is about 3% to 5% of his body. Is that normal if I might ask anyone here who knows well about this matter? When he first moved to Toronto he lost weight and his body fat was 3%. Before this season started they said his body fat was up to 5%. But with 3kg lost due to fatigue I am afraid he might have lost some fat as well.

I suggest you do a research on body fat in male athletes of various sports. A quick Google search should be enough to tell you that some sports require their male athletes to have body fat as low as 5% if not lower. Athletes are not normal people.
Secondly, regarding the body fat amount in itself, there has been more than one report on the news and no one actually knows what is real or not. What we know is that Yuzuru said that after changing his diet for the better with the help of a nutritionist and doing more off-ice training, he was able to gain more muscle and actually lost weight. This coming after the 'from 3% to 4%' report, and before the 5% one.
And lastly, though not directly related, his weight info has not been updated in, what, four or five years? He'd been saying last year that he weighted normally 55-56kg, which is definitely more realistic. For a comparison, Javi weights 63kg (and he's still quite thin for his height, but he does have a larger body structure).
 

Skater Boy

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I am not a doctor but I hope Hanyu gets good medical advise and follows it. LIfe is too short to live in pain or unable to walk or something just to rush to try to win another medal.
 
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