Is Johnny Weir America's Great Hope for Gold in Torino?
How does Johnny Weir compare with each of the following in terms of GOLD at Torino? (Consider he is consistent with quad(s) by the time 2006 rolls around.)
Which seasoned male skaters listed above will give Johnny little competition; some competition and a lot of competition.
Footnote question: When was the last Oly gold medalist in the Men's Division for the USA?
Tough competition: Plushenko, Joubert, Goebel
Some competition: Lindeman, Griazev, Lysacek and Sandhu if Sandhu keeps it together
Little competition: Buttle and some whippersnapper who shows up.
Johnny has a lot of work ahead of him. they are all seasoned skaters!!! I think he can do it.
And who was that masked American gold medalist riding off into the dust?
I honestly don't see Johnny winning a medal of any color against these guys in 2006. I think he might be ready in 2010.
If Timmy gets his body aligned, he has a great shot at the silver medal. He might even take gold if Pluskenko messes up. I think Tim has more difficulty in his programs than any of the top guys (including Plushenko) and that makes up for his lack of style on the ice. Though I want to add that Tim isn't that bad a skater however it seems as if he hasn't quite found a style that works for him. Tim is really bland on the ice and he might need to work with a different choreographer than Lori Nichol b/c that combination does not seem to be working out.
Mikey Weiss might pull a Paul Wylie and stun everyone at the 2006 Games. He certainly has similar inconsistencies in his skating that remind me of Paul.
You didn't mention Stephen Lambiel. He and Joubert are going to be in that mix.
I think that 2006 is way too soon for Johnny. He's a very young skater and he hasn't been skating as long as the other guys. Plus Johnny is very juniorish in his presentation. It's nice (not my style) but he lacks the oomph of the other guys and I don't think that Johnny is going to get a consistent quad in one year.
Timmy Goebel and Plushy have been landing them for YEARS which gives them consistency. Now Johnny might get a quad, but from what I've seen of his triples, I don't think he will be consistent with that jump. Johnny's triples are nice but don't have the height and power that Plushy has on his jumps or the fast roation that Timmy gets on his jumps.
And even if Johnny gets a quad, unless he radically changes his presentation, I don't see him railroading Goebel, Plushenko, Joubert and Lambiel (and who knows who else will come up in Torino).
Brian Boitano was the last US male Olympic gold medalist in 1988. The Russians (Soviets) have had a stranglehold on the men's title since Viktor Petrenko won in 1992.
Last edited by soogar; 05-07-2004 at 05:43 PM.
I don't know if I will expect Johnny to be a threat for a medal, but it would be great if he could pull a "Sarah" and go into Turino as an underdog with no pressure and have a skate of his life. I am fascinated by his skating and can't wait to see how he develops in the next few years.
As for the gold, I am going to make a huge prediction and say it won't be going to Plushenko. I just have a gut feeling. I am REALLY hoping Tim pulls out another medal, don't care what color.
The biggest thing that will either help or hurt Johnny, is injuries. If any of the top guys (Plushenko, Joubert, Goebel) have injuries, then Johnny will have a much better shot at a medal; however, if everyone is healthy it will be tougher for him. I hope everyone is healthy so we get a great show down w/ the men! I'd love to see the U.S. get a medal, but I want everyone to perform well.
The top tier will be Plushenko, Goebel (if he is healthy), Joubert, Lambiel.
Next up are Klimkin, Sandhu, Lindenmann.
Next are the young ones -- Weir, Lysacek, Griazev. I could also put Weiss and Buttle in this category.
All in all, I think there are too many ahead of Weir, though you never know.
Gosh, how could I leave out Lambiel? He is definitely my GREAT HOPE for GOLD. It's not because I am anti American, it's just that I really dig his skating - quads or no quads.
I think Goebel has a better chance for a gold than Weir.