Meagan Duhamel and Eric Radford respond to critics on the ice
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Ambitious, I hope that since they choose to not to Worlds we'll actually see some development from them technically. At least I hope their 2A is replaced with the 3S or something. Their twist isn't good enough for a quad and as for Morozov choreographing, he's either really good or really bad.
Next year will be interesting
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agreed
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Saying and doing is two different things. So many skaters say they are working on something but getting it done when it counts is another. And Morozov is unlikely to help them artistically. I just don't understand why good skaters go to Morozov for choreo - I must be missing something.
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agreed... and even with that combo and perhaps a bigger throw... they are still behind D/R in BV... their second jumping pass has been 2A up to now... quite far from 3LZ
FWIW, Morozov did Pang and Tong's programs, which were both quite lovely.
The scores at worlds this years says otherwise.
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Morozov choreographs programs that are easy to skate but still score well in terms of PCS.
I am just a messenger.
Actually, there are videos of them doing 3-3-2 in practices. And it's no secret that they have been working on their throws all season. She particularly has a good jump technique, specifically their axels have room for upgrades. Morozov produces winning results, so no surprise there.
Their programs were lovely but Morozov can be terrible or good, we never know
I'm sure we'll see upgrades from them next season, we'll just have to see what they will be when the season starts, a 3-3-2 would really shake things up
It's obvious S/K need to upgrade the jumps, but I will be sad to see the 2a go because Ksenia's was absolutely textbook every time. I wouldn't be surprised to see them with a throw 3A as her technique is so good on the solo jump. Again, I guess that an upgraded throw would replace their throw 3sal, and that's a shame too, because it was usually so good with her running edge out of it and a great climax to their programs (if Fedor didn't trip just before 
) I'd rather see great quality elements like that over D/R's or K/S's more difficult quad throws that they have to slow down so much for & can only get scrappy landings on.
) I'd rather see great quality elements like that over D/R's or K/S's more difficult quad throws that they have to slow down so much for & can only get scrappy landings on.
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hehe 
if you want to see good 3S throws and 2A, you can still watch skaters from 20 years ago we want to see something new.... good 4s throws for instance... so we will wait a few seasons and then hopefully, they will flow better... let's not stop the progress!
if you want to see good 3S throws and 2A, you can still watch skaters from 20 years ago we want to see something new.... good 4s throws for instance... so we will wait a few seasons and then hopefully, they will flow better... let's not stop the progress! It's obvious S/K need to upgrade the jumps, but I will be sad to see the 2a go because Ksenia's was absolutely textbook every time. I wouldn't be surprised to see them with a throw 3A as her technique is so good on the solo jump. Again, I guess that an upgraded throw would replace their throw 3sal, and that's a shame too, because it was usually so good with her running edge out of it and a great climax to their programs (if Fedor didn't trip just before
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hehe
Thanks for the option.
Here are Mishtukenok and Dmetriev from 1994. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDqZuQVcQg
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Thanks for the option.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDqZuQVcQg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFTQBMkiOjwand of course, the D/R of their era... never really getting the love they deserved despite pushing the sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kcEOSeU08c
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It's obvious S/K need to upgrade the jumps, but I will be sad to see the 2a go because Ksenia's was absolutely textbook every time. I wouldn't be surprised to see them with a throw 3A as her technique is so good on the solo jump. Again, I guess that an upgraded throw would replace their throw 3sal, and that's a shame too, because it was usually so good with her running edge out of it and a great climax to their programs (if Fedor didn't trip just before
To be fair they've only been doing quads this season, you can't improve if you don't keep trying, D/R have improved their twist and their sbs 3Lz got better unison over the years because they kept trying.
and I'm sure you don't need to worry about Ksenia, her 3T-3T in practice looked really good, I'm sure you'll enjoy it just as much as you've enjoyed her 2A. The judges score S/K not THAT far behind D/R even with lesser technical content, they can afford some upgrades and they've got the technique for it.
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Can you post these please? I've seen Ksenia do a solid 3-3, but haven't seen Fedor do one.
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Agreed. I mean, Max, did you not see the SP? 8 (essentially 9) of the top 10 teams went clean.
In the FS, all top 5 teams cleared 130 (without 2nd half bonus, mind you), the same number as in Sochi. With second half bonus in the FS, and pairs being allowed to do any lift in the SP (instead of a group 3), scores overall would have been at least 4-5 points higher and K/S would have cleared 130 too.
D/R, even without 2nd half bonus and being allowed a harder lift in the SP, would have come 2nd at the Sochi Olympics. And with FS bonus/SP harder lift, S/H would have won bronze. Many clean freeskates from S/H, T/M, J/C, A/R, S/B -- in Sochi, only S/K and Z/B went clean in the FS.
Only 2 teams attempted quads in Sochi, whereas 5 teams attempted quads here.
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Thanks for the option.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDqZuQVcQg
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and of course, the D/R of their era... never really getting the love they deserved despite pushing the sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kcEOSeU08c
Thanks Mathman and 4everchan--I hadn't watched those programs in a while, and I thoroughly enjoyed them! It was like a Throwback Thursday and "Favorite Warhorse" series all rolled into one! ; )
Forgot just how fast Mishkutenok/Dmietriev skated. Love their choreography, too--of course it's Moskvina!
Also forgot how impressive Brasseur/Eisler's lifts were.
And, of course, Gordeeva/Grinkov = elegance.
While I'm excited in many ways to see today's increased technical content--and I appreciate Duhamel/Radford's accomplishments in that area--I don't find these performances lacking one bit. Really great to watch again!
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