Best Ladies' 3Lutz ever?

LiamForeman · Jul 5, 2015

I'd like to know what y'all think who has had the best ladies' 3Lutz? I mean smooth in, smooth out, correct edge, beautiful air position, etc. So many go inside edge, and if they tended to would go for a short entrance and hope judges won't notice.

For me, I think the most wonderful 3lutz I've ever seen from a 'lady' (god I hate that word, but what else do I say? Girl? Woman? I suppose Female does the trick.) is Yebin Mok from the early 2000s. Who was her coach, and why doesn't USFS demand that all skaters go to her to learn the lutz? If I had a kid in skating, I'd make sure before she even learns single lutz that coach would get my kid together.

Honorable Mentions: Baiul, Kerrigan, Ito of (course), Gillooly.

Yebin was wonderful at one USN I went to. It had to be 2003. Her practices were mesmerizing.

Layback11 · Jul 5, 2015

Yuna, no question. In the current field, probably Gracie.

FSGMT · Jul 5, 2015

The best 3Lutz? Probably Midori for me, it simply had everything! Harding's lacked a bit of grace and polish but as a jump it was splendid, then Miki and Yuna (both especially between 2007 and 2011) deserve honorable mentions, as well as Carolina

invisiblespiral · Jul 5, 2015

I like Yuna's 3lz, so I'll second her.... and I think Midori is a contender for best at most jumps.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Jul 5, 2015

Most likely Yu Na. But Gold's is excellent too. I also loved the height Sebestyen would get on hers, and Harding's was also huge.

Krunchii · Jul 5, 2015

Yuna Kim for me, it's was big, beautiful air position, fantastic flow coming out, she could do steps into it and out of it. Just fabulous. But I must give credit to ladies such as Midori Ito and Tonya Harding, they've also had great lutzes that were huge and this was back in the day when figure skating technology for the boots and blades were different. Props to them.

Abraxis12345 · Jul 5, 2015

Volchkova (when she actually landed it)

http://youtu.be/-RALBB7zz8Q

mrrice · Jul 5, 2015

I've seen two Ladies land a great 3lutz live and they were Tonya Harding and Maria Butyrskaya. True, clear, outside edges. Maria's was prettier but Tonya's was higher and her approach into the jump was fast as lightening. I never saw it live but I always thought that Victoria Volchkova had a beautiful Lutz.

mrrice · Jul 5, 2015

Abraxis12345 said:
Volchkova (when she actually landed it)

http://youtu.be/-RALBB7zz8Q

See.........Great minds think alike.

LiamForeman · Jul 5, 2015

Layback11 said:
Yuna, no question. In the current field, probably Gracie.

Yes they both have great lutzes.

4everchan · Jul 5, 2015

midori ito...

i always liked the height on chouinard's lutz... unfortunately she wasn't consistent on it.

Like on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKnp2P9xM1c

there's a great slow mo of it at the end

drivingmissdaisy · Jul 5, 2015

Tatiana Malanina and Carolina Kostner for me. I'm partial to the classic lutz entrance though.

Sophie-Anna · Jul 5, 2015

Yuna and Liza Tutkamysheva. They have a textbook lutz.

solani · Jul 5, 2015

Tuktamysheva's. Because of the minimal reach-back before the toe pick and the seemingly effortless height. Truly elegant.

Crystallize · Jul 5, 2015

I'd say Midori Ito under 6.0 and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva under COP. Cynthia Phaneuf also jumps

laugh2

into my mind. Her triple lutz was huge!

mrrice · Jul 5, 2015

Crystallize said:
I'd say Midori Ito under 6.0 and Elizaveta Tuktamysheva under COP. Cynthia Phaneuf also jumps laugh2 into my mind. Her triple lutz was huge!

OMG Cynthia Phaneuf. Another beauty from spoiled Canada. Gorgeous!

andyjo24 · Jul 5, 2015

Yu-na Kim!!

Her triple lutz has everything: height, distance, right edge, good flow in and out, and speed. I've seen it live at 2013 Worlds. Her 3lz+3t combo was huge, covering 1/3 of the rink!

Carolina's triple lutz is amazing, but IMO, she telegraphs too much.

Liza's triple lutz is extremely high, but I don't think it covers too much distance and she doesn't enter it with lots of speed.

Blades of Passion · Jul 5, 2015

Harding - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxLXhkQC8U&t=7m16s

Ito - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyu8GYBRIjE&t=32s

Sebestyen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjh6O6bTkc0&t=1m14s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFW9Z99QD30&t=43s

Yu-Na has a textbook great lutz, but she could never jump as high as any of these ladies. Sebestyen's might be the highest. Harding's in that instance probably has the overall best height + distance ever. She went at it like her life depended on it. All of the crazy pressure and anxiety funneled into those powerful legs in that moment.

One of the annoying things about CoP currently is that explosive jumps are not really rewarded. It's more about being contained and controlled. Another thing that contributes to skating looking so mechanical...

4everchan · Jul 5, 2015

Blades of Passion said:
Harding - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxLXhkQC8U&t=7m16s

Ito - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyu8GYBRIjE&t=32s

Sebestyen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjh6O6bTkc0&t=1m14s / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFW9Z99QD30&t=43s

Yu-Na has a textbook great lutz, but she could never jump as high as any of these ladies. Sebestyen's might be the highest. Harding's in that instance probably has the overall best height + distance ever. She went at it like her life depended on it. All of the crazy pressure and anxiety funneled into those powerful legs in that moment.

One of the annoying things about CoP currently is that explosive jumps are not really rewarded. It's more about being contained and controlled. Another thing that contributes to skating looking so mechanical...

this

Meoima · Jul 5, 2015

Liza and Harding!! THEY'RE THE BEST LUZT JUMPER EVER!!

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4everchan

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solani

Crystallize

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