I'm worried 05' Worlds!

icenut84 · Jul 11, 2004

gracefulswan said:
they are saying over at fsuniverse that his short program is to 'moonlight sonata'... a recent interview of his was translated from bulgarian..and it confirms the selection. great! i think he can pull it off. i always look forward to seeing 'the champion' perform.

They also said that it's a "guitar version", and that he's working with the choreographer Petkhukov (sp?), who works/worked with Denkova & Staviyski.

Joesitz (RIP) · Jul 12, 2004

In the last of the GPs in Bofrost, Evgeni skated to a lyrical piece as his SP and in my opinion it was his finest skate ever. He had excellent flowing choreography; he did not mug the audience; he simply did his jumps as part of the music rather than selling them. He was a totally different Evgeni and I was happily surprised. I would imagine he will repeat this with Beethoven. I would prefer piano to violin but we'll see.

Joe

libra 1 · Jul 15, 2004

Joesitz said:
In the last of the GPs in Bofrost, Evgeni skated to a lyrical piece as his SP and in my opinion it was his finest skate ever. He had excellent flowing choreography; he did not mug the audience; he simply did his jumps as part of the music rather than selling them. He was a totally different Evgeni and I was happily surprised. I would imagine he will repeat this with Beethoven. I would prefer piano to violin but we'll see.

Joe

Dear Joesitz,
Zhenia's SP music is a guitar version of Moonlight Sonata, very lyrical, sad, touching, and beautiful. I believe all necessary ingredients for a new little masterpiece will be put in place.

Libra - from Russia, with love

berthes ghost · Jul 15, 2004

libra 1 said:
Zhenia's SP music is a guitar version of Moonlight Sonata, very lyrical, sad, touching, and beautiful. I believe all necessary ingredients for a new little masterpiece will be put in place.

Have you heard it then? I'm not very musical, so I can't for the life of me imagine a guitar version of this piano classic. What's it like?

soogar · Jul 15, 2004

BG: I have a version of Moonlight Sonata in guitar by Dominic Miller and it's really beautiful and new agey. I don't think that's the version Plushy will skate to but there are lots of classical pieces that translate well into guitar.

icenut84 · Jul 15, 2004

libra 1 said:
Zhenia's SP music is a guitar version of Moonlight Sonata, very lyrical, sad, touching, and beautiful. I believe all necessary ingredients for a new little masterpiece will be put in place.

I can't wait!

(I hope he places the footwork to match the music well too)

BigSk8Fan · Jul 15, 2004

thvudragon said:
Even IF Lambiel was placed third in the LP, he still would have been 4th overall because of his poor SP placement.

And Dambier should have beaten Plush at Euros? Dambier with his empty program full of nothing but spread eagles and random arm waving was placed 4th and I think justifiably, but hey, that's just me. Plushenko still had better technical content despite the falls I thought.

TV

Totally disagree. Dambier's only problem, like most French skaters, is the shaky landings on his jumps. "Moulin Rouge" to me at least, is a beautifully austere program (the costume is a tad unfortunate, but he's European), mercifully free of the frantic mannerisms that Plushy has.

RIskatingfan · Jul 15, 2004

BigSk8Fan said:
Dambier's only problem, like most French skaters, is the shaky landings on his jumps

Shaky landings aren't a "only", this is a major thing. If you can't land the jumps cleanly then you won't get full credit for them. It's not only the attempts and what you can put in that counts, it's the quality of the elements landed. Dambier fully deserved that fourth place, there is no way he shoud have been placed better than Plushenko.

The only skater whose placement I doubted at Euros and I haven't re-watched yet, is Klimkin. I remember thinking at the time that he had a very good shot for the silver, maybe I should watch it again to see if I changed my mind. Plushenko still landed a good number of jumps and of high quality, but the presentation marks were a total gift IMO for a program that had quite a few mistakes and was changed to some extent to throw in the jumps.

And on the French skaters with shaky landings... Joubert lands clean jumps

BigSk8Fan · Jul 15, 2004

RIskatingfan said:
And on the French skaters with shaky landings... Joubert lands clean jumps

Look at his quad-triple combo. Look at how he exits....it is sloppy. But Joubert has beautiful rotations in the air.

RIskatingfan · Jul 15, 2004

Yes, many times his combination jumps aren't as good as they could be, but you must look at his jumps in general. His solo quad in particular is probably even better than Plushenko's. At least as of lately. In general, Joubert has great landings and that is one of the reasons why he is the current European Champion and Worlds Silver medallist in one of the best skated Worlds we've seen in a long time. IMO he has plenty of things to improve if he wants to keep winning medals, but his jumps are terrific, so credit where it's due.

I'm worried 05' Worlds!

icenut84

Joesitz (RIP)

libra 1

berthes ghost

soogar

icenut84

BigSk8Fan

RIskatingfan

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