Brian Orser Interview

Violet Bliss · Mar 23, 2016

On Absolute Skating

I think this deserves a thread, an in depth interview of the preeminent coach of today with discussion on his most accomplished students and some up coming skaters.

Sorrento · Mar 23, 2016

Why he did not mention Boyang at all I wonder? Or was it cut from the interview?

Osmond4gold · Mar 23, 2016

Nor was Chartrand or Nguyen mentioned , or they were but cut due to space demands. Best coach in the world at the moment, me thinks!

LadyB · Mar 23, 2016

Violet Bliss said:
On Absolute Skating

I think this deserves a thread, an in depth interview of the preeminent coach of today with discussion on his most accomplished students and some up coming skaters.

Yeah, well done to start the thread as comments otherwise get split between Yuzu's and Javi's fan fests.
One of the most in-depth interviews I've read with Brian in a while. Not necessary that much news, but a lot of things he said before all in one. I think he's doing a fantastic job. He was a top-class skater, a world champion, two time Olympic silver medallist and he only missed the Olympic gold by a whisker in 1988, which was heartbreaking. Brian understands young athletes and he knows what he's talking about. It's quite remarkable to create a trainings atmosphere where the two biggest rivals and best skaters in the world work together like brothers without jealousy and infighting, but with mutual respect and the willingness to learn from each other.
Go on Team Orser, do your magic for years to come. :luv17: :rock:

LadyB · Mar 23, 2016

Sorrento said:
Why he did not mention Boyang at all I wonder? Or was it cut from the interview?

Osmond4gold said:
Nor was Chartrand or Nguyen mentioned , or they were but cut due to space demands. Best coach in the world at the moment, me thinks!

Maybe because it was predominantly about Yuzu and Javi and how they reign supreme over the skating world despite their very different personalities. It could be that Brian detects some similarities to these two in Shoma, Alexei, Daniel and young Stephen regarding their approach to skating and their pattern of development. I don't think he meant to neglect any of his other students for one second or wouldn't have respect for Boyang. Sometimes you can't put everything in one interview when you look at a topic from one particular angle. I'm sure it's no reason to worry. :ghug:

Rissa · Mar 23, 2016

there are some great pieces of the music we never used, just because Yuzu had a bad feeling about it. Or it didn't match the rhythm of his jumps, he said, it is great but I can't do a quad toe to it, it's too fast, too powerful, it makes my heart go too fast.

I found it really interesting about Yuzuru... It seems like sometimes he feels music too much to skate to it, huh.

It's the next time BOreser mentioned the 11 year old prodigy, Stephen something if I remember correctly? Hopefully the boy will develop well and inspire Brian to coach him beyond Beijing. I was a bit surprised he was contemplating retirement, but then he's no spring chicken anymore.

liv · Mar 23, 2016

I was also surprised to see the comment about him reconsidering after Beijing where his future lies, because compared to some coaches who are around, he's pretty young! But then again, he's accomplished more than most coaches, after only being in the business for about 10 years.... He seems to attract talent, nurture it and help it along in a pretty positive and healthy environment... and I like that he's also aware of what kind of coach he is: maybe better for more mature students rather than the kids etc.. I think Brian and Tracy deserve kudos for creating such a positive environment for skating success at TCC.

tzazu · Mar 23, 2016

Great interview, thank you so much for sharing it

s_parks · Mar 23, 2016

I hate to be so presumptuous, but I am rather worried that an 11 year old is doing quads. Of course, his coaches aren't naive and he must have some otherworldly natural talent, but it is brow-raising.

silverfoxes · Mar 23, 2016

s_parks said:
I hate to be so presumptuous, but I am rather worried that an 11 year old is doing quads. Of course, his coaches aren't naive and he must have some otherworldly natural talent, but it is brow-raising.

I saw an interview with Plushy the other day (sorry I don't have the link), and he said something about a study on the effect of quads and that falling from one is like falling two stories to the ground. I have no idea if he was exaggerating, but I'm sure the impact is very stressful to the body in any case.

As much as I respect Brian, it does bother me in a way because this boy is really too young to understand the long term effects of his training. I am not sure 11 years old is old enough to make an educated decision about these things. Of course, you can get injured doing anything and not just from quads, but I just can't see any real benefit to doing quads at that age if he can't even put them into practice at competition for a couple years. What if he grows like a weed and loses the jumps anyway? We want to see the kid make it to seniors, so it would be a shame if he burns out with injuries before he even gets that far.

And as to why Brian didn't mention Boyang, the interview was done at Euros so Boyang was probably not at the forefront of his mind, while the guys skating there obviously were.

Tallorder · Mar 23, 2016

Would highly doubt Brian meant any slight by not mentioning Boyang.

Rissa · Mar 23, 2016

s_parks said:
I hate to be so presumptuous, but I am rather worried that an 11 year old is doing quads. Of course, his coaches aren't naive and he must have some otherworldly natural talent, but it is brow-raising.

silverfoxes said:
I saw an interview with Plushy the other day (sorry I don't have the link), and he said something about a study on the effect of quads and that falling from one is like falling two stories to the ground. I have no idea if he was exaggerating, but I'm sure the impact is very stressful to the body in any case.

As much as I respect Brian, it does bother me in a way because this boy is really too young to understand the long term effects of his training. I am not sure 11 years old is old enough to make an educated decision about these things. Of course, you can get injured doing anything and not just from quads, but I just can't see any real benefit to doing quads at that age if he can't even put them into practice at competition for a couple years. What if he grows like a weed and loses the jumps anyway? We want to see the kid make it to seniors, so it would be a shame if he burns out with injuries before he even gets that far.

And as to why Brian didn't mention Boyang, the interview was done at Euros so Boyang was probably not at the forefront of his mind, while the guys skating there obviously were.

http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?55302-10-year-old-Stephen-Gogolev-lands-4S/page5

Guys, can we not rehash it here again? There probably isn't anything left to say that hasn't already been said but you could put up a 2.0 thread I guess.

OS · Mar 23, 2016

BRORSER should be renamed BROMANCER, Hanyu and Javier is a beautiful love story :eek:

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SarahSynchro · Mar 23, 2016

silverfoxes said:
I saw an interview with Plushy the other day (sorry I don't have the link), and he said something about a study on the effect of quads and that falling from one is like falling two stories to the ground. I have no idea if he was exaggerating, but I'm sure the impact is very stressful to the body in any case.

Wait, what? PLUSHY was talking about the dangers of quads? I thought he declared himself the winner of the Vancouver platinum medal because the gold medal winner didn't have any quads.

Lol, sorry, I couldn't resist. :laugh:

andromache · Mar 23, 2016

Love Brian. I hope to see more former elite skaters move into coaching. They can understand the pressure their students face better than anyone else, having felt it firsthand. Notice how well Brian's students deal with pressure--they almost never have two bad skates in a row. It might've been at Skate Canada where I noticed that many of his students had HORRIBLE SPs, and then all of them came back huge in the LP.

begin · Mar 23, 2016

andromache said:
Love Brian. I hope to see more former elite skaters move into coaching. They can understand the pressure their students face better than anyone else, having felt it firsthand. Notice how well Brian's students deal with pressure--they almost never have two bad skates in a row. It might've been at Skate Canada where I noticed that many of his students had HORRIBLE SPs, and then all of them came back huge in the LP.

Well...there was the whole Adam Rippon fiasco :slink:

I think Brian is great coach when he has superstars under his belt but he's been somewhat fortunate in attracting said superstars. It would be interesting to see his coaching ability with a student that isn't blessed with the jumping gene.

Interspectator · Mar 23, 2016

Loved the interview. It's interesting the Brian thinks he's better for coaching after the developmental stage, I guess, when a skater is older.
He seems like the kind of coach who wants to reason things out with a skater, talk to them on equal footing and you can't do that with a child.
At least, that's my take on it.

sunnystars · Mar 23, 2016

begin said:
Well...there was the whole Adam Rippon fiasco

I think Brian is great coach when he has superstars under his belt but he's been somewhat fortunate in attracting said superstars. It would be interesting to see his coaching ability with a student that isn't blessed with the jumping gene.

I think he's doing well with Nam so far.

He does need to reconfigure Nam's 3A though. And Cha's too.

xibsuarz · Mar 23, 2016

sunnystars said:
I think he's doing well with Nam so far.

He does need to reconfigure Nam's 3A though. And Cha's too.

Mr. 3A students are having trouble with the 3A. Idk if it's wrong technique or not, but their 3A look odd to me. Perhaps they use their arms and upper body too much during take off?

Interspectator · Mar 23, 2016

xibsuarz said:
Mr. 3A students are having trouble with the 3A. Idk if it's wrong technique or not, but their 3A look odd to me. Perhaps they use their arms and upper body too much during take off?

Nam and Cha have both brought over a bad axel technique from their previous coaching situation. -Time will tell if Orser is able to fix it.
I don't think that Orser's strong point is even teaching jumps. Yuna, Yuzu and Javi all came to Orser with the right technique for their jumps.
Yuzu learns his new jumps at shows (according to him). Orser knows how to work with what is there and give a calming environment to train in, and other specialists to help with skating, choreo and planning the whole season. -Can he fix faulty jumping technique? We will find out in the next few seasons.

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