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    Meissner Lands 8 TRIPLES

    Hello all,

    I just witness Kimmie Meisner land 8 triples including a scratchy triple axel at a local competition in Delaware.

    More details later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterB
    Hello all,

    I just witness Kimmie Meisner land 8 triples including a scratchy triple axel at a local competition in Delaware.

    More details later.
    Wow! Looks like Sasha and Michelle have internal competition too! I hope we get to see Meisner at the US Nationals. Is she old enough to compete in worlds 2005?

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    No, she's too young.

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    Hey Master,I Was There TOO!!!!!...Pretty Impressive stuff i must say!!..i was
    actually there to watch Felicia Beck and Louann Donovan skate,as they are two
    of my favorite up-and comers(Louann was GREAT,Felicia didn't have her
    best outing but she she'll skake it off i'm sure),but now i can add K.Meissner to
    my list of skaters to watch..She's very good!!!..Best of luck to her.

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    I can't wait to see her! I'll keep my eyes on her.

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    I saw her skate live at US Juniors last year, which she won, and on TV at Jr. Worlds where she finished 2nd. At both competitions she did a 3lz3t and skated very very well.

    Certainly an up and comer, and isn't this the first US lady's 3A since Tonya?

    Plus Katy Taylor is right behind her.

    It is too early to declare the death of US Ladies' skating, is it not!

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    MasterB, thanks for the post, and welcome to the forum!

    Details, details!!!

    Mathman

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    [QUOTE=DORISPULASKI]

    Certainly an up and comer, and isn't this the first US lady's 3A since Tonya?

    Was the 3A actually ratified by the judge, is my question?

    I would love to see great things out of Meissner. The only footage I saw of her was an exhibition number at the US Nats when she was the US novice champion. This is the one that a number of posters have alluded to where she fell on the 3lutz, but come on, the girl was 13 and that's quite a jump to throw in exhibition

    The challenge, IMHO, is not teaching her the hard jumps and crossing one's finger that puberty won't affect her technique on them, it's instilling the full package (jumps and artistry) into her and hoping that she keeps both of them as she improves as a skater. That's the thing about the Japanese girls: they're landing 3x3 combos and 3axels, but they also have a lot more attention to artistry than some of the "jumping phenoms" we've seen. It's having the artistry that's going to carry them to the higher levels in the sport. Even if they can do the 3axel after puberty, it's only a novelty unless they the artistic foundation. Take Ludmila Nelidina (sp?), for example. She landed a beautiful 3axel at SA while the rest of her programme was horrific. Yoshie Onda (although she has gotten better) is another

    Speaking of Onda, did she ever, in fact, land a 3axel that the judges ratified? I know she attempted it forever

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    Matt - Glad to have you aboard the Golden Skate. You take a serious view of the sport. Artistry is important but with the CoP, the technical comes more into play than before. Those tricks are going to pile up points, while in my opinion, the Artistry will continue to be subjective. What I think ill happen in the comps this season is that a few skaters will all be close in the technical points and the subjective presentation will define the winner.

    There's nothing one can do with Presentation. All judges seem to like a good clean skate but they have to make up their mind who they will boost up with the points. With no hanky panky involved, some judges like the more lyrical skater while others like the more virtuoso skater.. My own preference is a skater who can handle the lyrical music and change off to the more bravuro music in the same program. Few skaters have that..ability until they get maturity. Kwan's LP in the DC Worlds had just that! Just my opinion on what I like in presentation.

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    Wow, that is so amazing! Go Kimmie! :D

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    The full details

    I just woke up from my three hour trip back home.

    Details:
    Kimmie landed the following - in order:
    Flip
    Lutz/Toe
    Axel
    Loop
    Salcow
    Lutz
    Toe

    Her artistry is okay but may not hold up well against the like of you know who. Louann had the second best skate with a total of 7 triples. some were just barely there. She never smiled once, but her program looked better overall. The Canadian Champion Cynthia Phenuef had a terrible skate in the short and was given a 5th place finish which she shouldn't have gotten. She should've placed about 12th. There were other ladies who out skated her She decided not to do the long( i so wanted her to give the Americans a good fight). She looked scared.

    The men were pityfull. Derrick Delmore skated poorly and should just move on with his life. If it hasn't happen by now its not going to. Scott Smith also skated terrible. Shaun Rogers landed the only Quad and triple Axel but not anything else.

    The Junior ladies kicked royal a%$. Megan Olser skated beautiful landing 5 triples. Danielle Sheppard also lande 5 triples and so did Christine ????. The rest did about 3 triples each. These ladies were tough.

    The novice division was something to write about also. One young lady attempted a tripleLutz/triple toe and then fell. Her jumps were a little a-la-hughes style, but none the less exciting. She also competed in the senior pairs division and landed a sleuth of triples her last name is jones or jordan (it was a long week and I couldn't always hear the names)

    A question: If Meissner wins a Junior World medal doesn't she qualify for worlds and Olympics if she medals at Nationals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterB

    A question: If Meissner wins a Junior World medal doesn't she qualify for worlds and Olympics if she medals at Nationals?
    The ISU changed the rule last year. You have to be 16 regardless.

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    the 16 age rule

    That really sucks, she may not be this good three years from now. I believe this is called a konundrum. We don't want to push the girls at such an early age, but by the same token they peak at 15 or 16. Rarely do we see a late bloomer (in jumps that is)

    So I guess the third place contenders (Kirk, Mcdonough, Liang, Mok, Nikodinov) are all safe for now.

    Another Question: What if she wins Nationals? Then what?

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    Then she's the US National champion who goes to junior worlds.

    Personally, I like the age rule. If she's still this good in two years, more power to her. I want to see women skate, not little girls. But that's just me.

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