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So you want to be a figure skater

gkelly

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I’m new to figure skating and would like to become a competitive skater. What can I expect?

There have been a lot of threads started recently asking variations on this question. I thought it might be a good idea to have a general thread to give newcomers some context about what they might be able to achieve.

It’s impossible to predict how far any given beginner might be able to progress without knowing details, because everyone is different. And long-term predictions always have question marks because situations can change.

If you want advice about your specific situation after reading this thread, start your own thread to tell us what your background and access to practice ice and lessons will be like.

First of all, if you’re looking at the elite skaters you see on TV and wondering if you can achieve that, the answer is probably No.

It takes many years of very intense training starting from a young age to achieve that level of comfort on the ice -- skating with deep smooth edges, power and flow, executing difficult moves and making it all look easy. The younger you start, while neural pathways are still forming, the more natural skating movement and balance over the blades will come to you for the rest of your skating life. The smaller you are when you start learning double and maybe triple jumps, the better. And it takes years of training before you to get to that point.

Even for skaters who start as preteens it is rare to reach senior level. Those who start as younger teenagers and ever reach elite levels can probably be counted on one hand. So if your age is already in double digits before you start out, you should plan to set more realistic goals.

If you are a young child, or the parent of one, who aspires to become an elite skater, know that training for serious competition soon becomes an expensive, full-time commitment. Each family needs to decide for themselves how much time, money, etc., they can invest in a child’s skating career so they can set appropriate goals.

Fortunately, for those of us who are able to skate at least once or twice a week, there are other options for enjoying the sport and in many cases to enter competitions in appropriate categories for our age and skill level.

The more hours you can spend on the ice practicing and taking lessons, the faster you will progress. Group lessons are often a better value financially for beginners, but private instruction usually leads to quicker progress. Many serious beginners continue with both for a while, until they move beyond the skill levels offered in the local classes.

Look into what is available near you in terms of training both for beginners and for advanced skaters if you plan to aim for higher levels. Options can vary widely by country as well as from one local area to another.

Options for competing also differ within different countries.

If you live in an area with lots of rinks and local competitions, you’ll have it easier than someone who would need to travel.

Serious competitive skaters usually practice 5 or 6 days a week for several hours each day and work with a coach (or multiple coaches) several times a week, generally starting before they reach the double jump level. It’s not possible to learn good technique without good coaching, and it’s not possible to practice without access to ice time -- not on crowded public sessions. So the more lessons and practices you take, the better you can learn to skate, but the costs will quickly add up before you even think about the costs of entering competitions.

There are probably 3 rough categories of skating commitment:


  1. Recreational: Skate a couple hours a week, take group lessons or one private lesson a week. Work up to single jumps, maybe pass some tests and/or compete at lower levels. After several years you might be ready to start learning beginning double jumps, but don’t expect them to come easily without more ice time.
  2. Semi-serious: Skate several days every week, several hours per day, with several lessons per week. Work on developing well-rounded skating skills, pass tests, and enter competitions at lower and middle levels, trying to be the best you can at each level. If you’re young and fit and put in the time, you might be ready to start trying double jumps in 1-2 years after getting serious. After 5 years or so of hard work, you might be ready to start working on double axels.

That’s where most kids get stuck, even the ones who started as preschoolers and skated almost every day with lessons from good coaches. The average skater will never master a double axel or any triples no matter how good their training and work ethic. Those skills depend as much on body type (height, weight, muscle fiber composition) as on technique.

For the rare skater who has strong basic skating skills and the right body type to master higher jumps:

3. Elite competitor: Continue with the serious training, including off-ice work, specialist coaches, and travel to appropriate
high-level competitions, and hope to place well enough to qualify for national and international competition.


Ice dance and especially synchronized skating are more forgiving of different body types and later starters. But they require even stronger basic skating skills at the top levels. And for female aspiring ice dancers, there aren’t enough male partners to go around and girls have to be light enough to be lifted.

What factors will increase your chances of success?

*The more hours you can skate every week

*Starting lessons early on with a good technical coach who works well with skaters of your age and skill level

*The younger you start, the better

*Small, light, muscular body type, with lots of quick-twitch muscle fibers for jumping -- you can train to optimize your body weight, muscle strength, and flexibility, but you can only work with what nature gave you

*Male skaters usually have a much easier time with jumps than female skaters; females tend to do better with flexibility moves -- but every body is different and training emphasis has an effect

*Previous experience training in dance or other sports especially those that rely on precise body awareness will help a lot

*Good balance -- how long can you stand on one foot off ice? -- and good knee bend

*Daring -- are you comfortable moving at high speeds, and falling down a lot?

*Patience to practice the same skills over and over again without getting discouraged when progress is slow or seems to go backward at times

Now, if you start a thread to tell us which advantages or disadvantages you’re starting with, and where you live (which country you live in, how close to an ice rink and what kind of programs that rink offers -- no need to get any more specific), more experienced posters can give advice on how to get started and what might be reasonable short- and long-term goals for you to aim for.
 
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sandraskates

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I almost don't want to reply to that question anymore so gkelly I applaud and thank you for this very concise overview.
Now it just has to be found and read by those asking that question!
 

karne

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I want to add - bluntly:

If you are a late beginner, and have your heart set on being one of those skaters on TV, and you come and ask and we tell you that no, it can't happen, that you can start skating but you will never be one of those skaters on TV, we are not being mean or negative. We are being realistic.
 

brens78

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Hopefully no more threads asking whether they can make it to the Olympics now lol
 

loopy

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If you have not ever been in ice skates and are a late starter, before you dream of the Olympics, take classes. Meet skaters who spend their lives at the rink. See what they are not doing - most are not in public school full time, often they don't date, they don't go to sleepovers, they get up before school and skate, they skate after school. They are not watching the newest tv shows or movies. They basically get up go to work on the ice, do school in some form, go back to work on the ice. They watch what they eat, they take training classes in dance/stretch/cardio, pilates, yoga and then they go back to work on the ice. Many also play a musical instrument and get perfect grades. They are pros at changing in the car, eating food they bring from home in the car, they spend hours each week traveling to school and ice. This is the life they chose and they have been doing it this way since they were 6 or 7. Free time is very limited because they are physically and mentally focused on their goals. They are not going to school dances, parties, etc. They don't have the "normal" life.

If it sounds like you and your family can do this - think of spending almost $100 a day on ice and lessons - you still need to take lessons to see if you actually like skating.
 

skatemomoftwo

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If you have not ever been in ice skates and are a late starter, before you dream of the Olympics, take classes. Meet skaters who spend their lives at the rink. See what they are not doing - most are not in public school full time, often they don't date, they don't go to sleepovers, they get up before school and skate, they skate after school. They are not watching the newest tv shows or movies. They basically get up go to work on the ice, do school in some form, go back to work on the ice. They watch what they eat, they take training classes in dance/stretch/cardio, pilates, yoga and then they go back to work on the ice. Many also play a musical instrument and get perfect grades. They are pros at changing in the car, eating food they bring from home in the car, they spend hours each week traveling to school and ice. This is the life they chose and they have been doing it this way since they were 6 or 7. Free time is very limited because they are physically and mentally focused on their goals. They are not going to school dances, parties, etc. They don't have the "normal" life.

If it sounds like you and your family can do this - think of spending almost $100 a day on ice and lessons - you still need to take lessons to see if you actually like skating.

Love this ! This is our way of life. We are blessed that when we go outside to train we are at a rink with others likeminded. They do stuff together so they can have some sort of life outside the rink !
 

CanadianSkateMom

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Thank you for this thread. Im the mom of a 7 year old who fell in love with the ice. We have been skating for one month now and she has been bumped up 3 levels. She is skating with a local figure skating club for beginner lessons. They see potential with her and have us doing 2 days a week and have helped me with the cost. Im really nervous at how much this is going to cost. We are only 4 blocks from the rink, but they melt it in the summer.
Thanks.
 

gkelly

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Welcome, CanadianSkateMom. I hope there are some Canadian posters here who can give you a better idea about what your options will be in Canada if you take a recreational or a competitive approach to the sport. Do you want to start a thread specific to your situation?
 

TGee

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Thank you for this thread. Im the mom of a 7 year old who fell in love with the ice. We have been skating for one month now and she has been bumped up 3 levels. She is skating with a local figure skating club for beginner lessons. They see potential with her and have us doing 2 days a week and have helped me with the cost. Im really nervous at how much this is going to cost. We are only 4 blocks from the rink, but they melt it in the summer.
Thanks.

If your club hasn't provided a parent session that covers this, Skate Canada's Long Term Athlete Development Model is an excellent resource to help you understand how much training is needed at each level...

https://skatecanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Skate-Canada-LTAD-Model-EN.pdf

Cost is a consideration for most families however.

Once your child has reached a certain level, there may be some community scholarships available for low income families, such as through the Tim Horton's foundation....

Another good Canadian resource for parents who are new to the sport is the Skaters' Dad blog....

http://skatersdad.com/
 
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Seren

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This is a really great thread. Another thing that I think is important to consider is that skating is not always easy or fun. Sometimes it's very frustrating. There will be times you work at something for months and feel like you've made no improvement at all. You will fall. Most skaters will deal with some kind of injury (accidents happen) and the frustration of not being able to skate or feeling like you are losing skills is hard to deal with. It is not always easy. When my alarm goes off at 4:30 am so I can skate before work I sometimes have a split second where I wish I could sleep longer (it goes away when I remind myself how happy I will be once I get to the rink).

If you love skating then it is worth it. No matter what goal you set for yourself you have to love it. It's expensive and frustrating and exhausting. But it is also wonderful- nothing feels the way speeding, gliding, and jumping across the ice feels. For anything else to be possible you have to skate because you love it.
 
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Tavi...

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If you're a brand new skater looking to get started, group classes at your local rink are the most cost-effective way to do it. Some areas have several rinks. If that's the case, check their websites to see what classes they offer and if times are convenient. Some rinks, for example, have separate classes for adult (usually age 16 and up) skaters; others do not. Visiting the rink and speaking with the skating director can also be helpful.

If you're looking for a private coach, there a couple of things to consider: (1) does the coach work with skaters at your age / level; (2) does her teaching style match your learning style and needs, and do her expectations match yours; (3) do her students skate well and do they progress; and (4) can she teach you regularly at a convenient time and a price you can afford. Not all coaches like teaching adults, and some may primarily work with competitive skaters. If you are in classes at the rink and like your instructor, you can ask if she coaches privately. You can also ask the skating director for names of coaches; she should be able to recommend several appropriate ones. Observing coaches and students at your rink - usually during a freestyle session (practice time for advanced skaters and often a time when skaters of all levels take private lessons) is a great way to observe and find the right coach. You might also be able to chat with a coach you're interested after she stops teaching (never interrupt a lesson!). A good idea is to set up a trial lesson with the coach before making the decision to stick with her.

If you dont have a clue where to find classes or coaches in your area, here are a couple of resources:

US figure skating used to have its own "basic skills" program, but in the past year, USFS classes were spun off and rebranded as Learn to Skate USA. Here's the website:

https://www.learntoskateusa.com/?gclid=CIaPne6EjNICFQEpaQodIPMPFw

If you're planning to test and compete, you will eventually want to become a member of your local USFS club, which probably can refer you to coaches. You can find clubs on the USFS website:

http://www.usfsa.org/

There's a lot of useful stuff on the website, and there's actually a lot of information under the parents tab that may be useful regarding finding a club / coach / program. Members have access to a members only area of the website, which contains even more information.

Another source for finding coaches is the PSA website:

http://www.skatepsa.com/psa/Master-Rated-Search.html

Hope this info helps. Good luck!
 

vlaurend

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Thank you for taking the time to post this, gkelly. You are always a voice of reason and deserve every bit of respect you get on this forum! :)
 

oliviachoi

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Very honest and informative advice. In order to get to the Olympic level (not only the figure skating), you must start training at a very young age. That's how our body's adaptation works. I have started learning this 5 weeks ago, and I'm in my 30's. I'm a professional Pilates coach, exercise physiology student, and I do horse riding as a recreational sport. No one thinks I'm in the 30's and I'm confident that I am fit and healthy. However, this does not mean that I could be an elite figure skater if I try hard. I started taking a group lesson and then since 2 weeks ago, started taking a weekly private lesson. I will compete one day, but it will be an amateur level, and I will make sure I do always enjoy and love being on the ice. Otherwise, why do I do this ?? I really hope my area has more quality facilities. Melbourne has only two icerinks and the one I go skating is very old, and sometimes the rink is too crowded during the public session. I only go there because it is closer from my place than the other one near the city. Also the coaches are very friendly and helpful. That's the one I love about this icerink. I can't wait to spend more time on the ice and move like a ballerina..lol
 

VegMom

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If your club hasn't provided a parent session that covers this, Skate Canada's Long Term Athlete Development Model is an excellent resource to help you understand how much training is needed at each level...

https://skatecanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Skate-Canada-LTAD-Model-EN.pdf

Thank you for this! It's a great resource!

ETA: I find that Appendix C is particularly helpful. It's a one-page guideline that suggests the optimal amount of training and areas of training for various age groups. For instance, for skaters who start young AND have the goal of international competition, it suggests these:
Girls ages 3-8 do the learn to skate program and only do 1 competition per year.
Girls ages 7-11 should skate 2-5 days a week for 45-60 minute sessions each time and do 2-3 competitions per year.
Girls ages 9-13 should skate twice a day 4 or 5 days a week and do 6 competitions per year.
Girls ages 10-16 should skate 2 or 3 times a day 5 days a week and do up to 15 competitions per year.
Girls ages 13-19 do 3-4 sessions per day 5 days a week and up to 17 competitions per year.
Adult women should skate 1-3 times per day 1-6 times per week depending on goals (some are still competing/doing shows and some are transitioning to coaching etc)

Boys ages 3-9 do the learn to skate program and only do 1 competition per year.
Boys ages 8-12 should skate 2-5 days a week for 45-60 minute sessions each time and do 2-3 competitions per year.
Boys ages 10-14 should skate twice a day 4 or 5 days a week and do 6 competitions per year.
Boys ages 11-17 should skate 2 or 3 times a day 5 days a week and do up to 15 competitions per year.
Boys ages 14-21 do 3-4 sessions per day 5 days a week and up to 17 competitions per year.
Adult men should skate 1-3 times per day 1-6 times per week depending on goals (some are still competing/doing shows and some are transitioning to coaching etc)

Obviously, this is JUST A GUIDELINE and not a hard and fast rule as to development.
It suggests skating about 44 weeks per year.

Related: http://www.skatingaheadofthecurve.com/AnnualTrainingVolume.html and http://www.skatingaheadofthecurve.com/DeterminingWeeklyVolume.html
 

roseyice

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Dec 12, 2017
Should I skate

I'm 15 and have always had a passion to learn how to skate and actually compete with it...is it too late though? I can no longer play volleyball or basketball due to too many concussions and brain surgery. Yet I went ice skating for the first time and my friend helped me along the way. I fell in love with it! Although my mom says it's a waste of time and I should just forget about it but I can't help but think about it. Should I listen to her or try harder to find a way to skate? Is it a big concussion risk?
 

ribbit

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I'm 15 and have always had a passion to learn how to skate and actually compete with it...is it too late though? I can no longer play volleyball or basketball due to too many concussions and brain surgery. Yet I went ice skating for the first time and my friend helped me along the way. I fell in love with it! Although my mom says it's a waste of time and I should just forget about it but I can't help but think about it. Should I listen to her or try harder to find a way to skate? Is it a big concussion risk?

Welcome, roseyice! Post long and post often!

In another subforum called "The Lutz Corner", you'll find a sticky thread called "So you want to be a figure skater". Here you'll find lots of advice from posters, some of whom were themselves elite skaters, and many others who started or resumed skating as teens or adults: too old to aim for the Olympics, but not too old to discover the world of competitions, social opportunities, and fun (and hard work) open to adult skaters. You don't mention where you are; much of the information centers on the US and Canada, but posters from around the world have shared their experiences and the opportunities open to them in their countries. (Your own post will probably be moved to the Lutz Corner soon.)

My story: I loved skating at the mall rink as a child, but I didn't start taking lessons until I had passed my Ph.D. qualifying exams and had the free time to enroll in the super-cheap lessons offered through my university. I haven't had the time to learn new skills (or even practice most of my old ones) since that year, but in a few weeks my skates and I will be on a plane to Canada, where I'm told my boyfriend's family will embrace me all the more because I'm looking forward to going skating outdoors every day. So yes, absolutely, if and when you have the opportunity, explore what's available to you! And if you have to wait a bit, the ice will still be there when opportunity finally knocks.
 

roseyice

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Welcome, roseyice! Post long and post often!

In another subforum called "The Lutz Corner", you'll find a sticky thread called "So you want to be a figure skater". Here you'll find lots of advice from posters, some of whom were themselves elite skaters, and many others who started or resumed skating as teens or adults: too old to aim for the Olympics, but not too old to discover the world of competitions, social opportunities, and fun (and hard work) open to adult skaters. You don't mention where you are; much of the information centers on the US and Canada, but posters from around the world have shared their experiences and the opportunities open to them in their countries. (Your own post will probably be moved to the Lutz Corner soon.)

My story: I loved skating at the mall rink as a child, but I didn't start taking lessons until I had passed my Ph.D. qualifying exams and had the free time to enroll in the super-cheap lessons offered through my university. I haven't had the time to learn new skills (or even practice most of my old ones) since that year, but in a few weeks my skates and I will be on a plane to Canada, where I'm told my boyfriend's family will embrace me all the more because I'm looking forward to going skating outdoors every day. So yes, absolutely, if and when you have the opportunity, explore what's available to you! And if you have to wait a bit, the ice will still be there when opportunity finally knocks.
Thank you and sorry I put it in the wrong subforum I was just eager...lol
 
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