View Poll Results: Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?

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  • Yes! She has awesome flexibility- why not use it for something more challenging?

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Thread: Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?

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    Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?

    Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?

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    No one doubts Sasha's flexibility. IMO she should concentrate on fixing the flutz and getting through the LP without playing Zamboni :D . Is the real question "If Sasha adds another flexbility trick will the judges overlook the flutz and falls?"

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    Everyone knows she's flexible. She needs to be consistant and to stop flutzing. A Biellman will be just another "gumby" moment in her program. She can do better than that.

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    I picked "don't know" because I don't think Sasha could pull this off. Has she ever done this in a program before?
    I know why this question was asked though. Her elements are very predictable and it's time for her to bring some new moves into the mix. Maybe she could try Sarah's 3 turns into the 3loop? I know she was working on the 3loop/3loop last year before Worlds and maybe she could try 3 turns into a 3loop/3loop? That would be amazing!
    I don't know though. I just don't think Sasha can pull this difficult stuff off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figure8fan17
    Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?
    I would prefer a biellman over the I spin. However I think Sasha needs to start showing us something besides a flexibility act. I think her flexibility blinds people to other aspects of her skating. But really what I'd like for Sasha the most to do is connect with the audience more. Skate with life and fire like she did at 2004 Worlds sp.

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    Exclamation Sasha Cohen's Biellmen spin

    I don't think she has ever done the Biellman spin in a competition before. Maybe she has practiced it, but of course we Sasha admirers do not watch her practice every day so if she has, we haven't seen it. But you're right. Although Sasha's cheorgraphy is different for each program she skates, her elements are predictable. I put this up because I think its interesting to see what the rest of you guys think.

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    No! absolutely not. The spin belongs in Cirque du Soleil not in figure skating. Sasha has already shown her flexibility, and why kill it with this ugly acrobatic trick?

    Joe

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    I voted "yes" with a restriction: Only if hers will look as impressive as that of Denise Biellmann. Besides, having also a Biellmann spin in her arsenal, brings variety when needed.

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    Last edited by Jaana; 08-17-2004 at 02:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana
    I voted "yes" with a restriction: Only if hers will look as impressive as that of Denise Biellmann. Besides, having also a Biellmann spin in her arsenal, brings variety when needed.

    Marjaana
    Yea -- what you said...

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    Exclamation Yes!

    I vote yes. Putting the Biellmen spin in a program would be a good thing for Sasha as per COP.
    Last edited by Kwanisqueen81; 08-22-2004 at 03:45 PM.

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    You talk as if she can do one, has she ever completed/ tried this spin?

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    I voted yes, I did like the way her biellman looked on her Swan Lake Program, she did it with only one hand, but I think she did two times only, it looked nice and effortless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ximena
    I voted yes, I did like the way her biellman looked on her Swan Lake Program, she did it with only one hand, but I think she did two times only, it looked nice and effortless.
    The one hand hold on the camel is not a bielman spin. It is an artistic pose for the camel spin and in recent years Maria Butryskaya had one of the best.

    The bielman spin is one where the skater wrestles to get hold of her skate with both hands and worm her way up to a camel spin. The operative word here is WRESTLE.

    I think Sasha has better sense than to stoop to that level.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz
    The one hand hold on the camel is not a bielman spin. It is an artistic pose for the camel spin and in recent years Maria Butryskaya had one of the best.
    You're right, it's not a true Biellmann. It's a half-Biellmann. I don't know how COP defines it, though, I'll have to read the protocols and search for that...

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    Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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