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    SPOILER: Men's Gymnastics All-Around

    Paul Hamm won the gold, Dae Un Kim (Korea) won the silver, and Tae Young Yang (Korea) won the bronze. (Looks of great disappointment from the Korean team as Hamm nailed his high bar routine (9.837) to edge out Kim by .012 of a point and Yang by .049 of a point. What's the statistical significance of that over six events?) Hamm received a 9.137 on the vault, which made it a squeaker. The Korean men were very strong on rings, with 9.7+ scores. Brett McClure came in 9th.

    The CBC guy in the studio asked the two commentators whether Hamm got the score on his reputation. They both said that while his reputation was great, his start value was a 10 and he had few deductions. They replayed the routine to make their point, and discussed his three release move, great form, and stuck landing. It was a fabulous routine. I can't wait to see the coverage tonight!

    First all-around gold for an American since 1904, when only Americans competed in St. Louis. First all-around medals for Korea -- two in one game!

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    Details from Olympics site:

    Floor, Pommel Horse, Rings, Vault, Parallel Bars, High Bar, Total

    1 HAMM Paul USA 9.725 9.700 9.587 9.137 9.837 9.837 57.823
    2 KIM Dae Eun KOR 9.650 9.537 9.712 9.412 9.775 9.725 57.811
    3 YANG Tae Young KOR 9.512 9.650 9.725 9.700 9.712 9.475 57.774
    4 SUCIU Ioan Silviu ROM 9.650 9.737 9.550 9.737 9.312 9.662 57.648
    5 MARTINEZ Rafael ESP 9.500 9.687 9.575 9.612 9.700 9.475 57.549
    6 TOMITA Hiroyuki JPN 9.062 9.737 9.762 9.625 9.637 9.662 57.485
    7 YANG Wei CHN 9.600 9.725 9.737 9.512 9.800 8.987 57.361
    8 DRAGULESCU Marian ROM 9.612 9.525 9.562 9.850 9.437 9.337 57.323
    9 McCLURE Brett USA 9.412 9.712 9.162 9.625 9.725 9.612 57.248
    10 ZOZULIA Roman UKR 9.525 9.412 9.575 9.500 9.762 9.225 56.999
    11 YONEDA Isao JPN 9.650 9.575 9.337 9.700 9.612 9.025 56.899
    12 GREBENKOV Georgi RUS 9.587 9.125 9.662 9.437 9.650 9.362 56.823
    13 BONDARENKO Alexei RUS 9.600 9.150 9.600 9.400 9.450 9.600 56.800
    14 YERIMBETOV Yernar KAZ 9.312 8.962 9.537 9.625 9.225 9.737 56.398
    15 VARGAS Luis PUR 8.337 9.612 9.500 9.462 9.562 9.662 56.135
    16 MYEZYENTSEV Ruslan UKR 9.512 8.975 9.387 9.437 9.637 9.112 56.060
    17 CARANOBE Benoit FRA 9.112 9.400 9.575 9.187 9.087 9.612 55.973
    18 VIHROVS Igors LAT 9.687 8.862 9.187 9.700 9.000 9.437 55.873
    19 GOFMAN Pavel ISR 9.100 9.262 9.425 9.112 9.725 9.062 55.686
    20 LOPEZ RIOS Eric CUB 9.137 8.600 9.500 9.700 9.675 8.837 55.449
    21 PFEIFER Sergei GER 9.312 9.025 9.587 9.087 9.162 9.212 55.385
    22 GIORGADZE Ilia GEO 8.737 9.587 9.487 9.337 9.662 8.462 55.272
    23 HAMBUECHEN Fabian GER 9.475 8.287 8.512 9.412 9.387 9.750 54.823
    24 SCHWEIZER Andreas SUI 8.450 9.062 9.675 9.225 9.450 8.750 54.612

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    so until the last rotation, yang wei was in the running for the gold?! *GASP!*

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisthingcalledlove
    so until the last rotation, yang wei was in the running for the gold?! *GASP!*
    From the scores it looks a like a routine performed well with medium difficulty would have given him the gold easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan228
    From the scores it looks a like a routine performed well with medium difficulty would have given him the gold easily.
    From the looks of things, the Spaniard and the Romanian could've easily taken gold, as well!

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    WOW - I just finished watching this competition and I must say Paul Hamm was magnificent. I thought it was all over after the Vault. I admire him so much for putting that behind him and stepping up to give two of his best performances ever on the Parallel and High Bars. What a great moment....and one of the biggest nail-biters I can recall!

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    Ok that was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen... I went from screaming and thinking it was all over to jumping up and down and routing for other people to fall (I know that sounds mean, and I didnt really want them to fall, but just a little).

    GOLD GOLD GOLD!!!!

    You would think there would be extra deductions if the judge has to keep you from rolling off the platform

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    OK, I gotta confess.....I knew that Paul won but I didn't know how it happened. So as I am watching it all unfold tonight, I was on the floor after Paul's vault, I was freaking out about all the little mistakes from others, and I absolutely BAWLED when Paul hit his last two sets cold and won the gold! His reaction was just stellar. "No way! NO WAY!!" I think he was stunned! Wow. That was amazing and I couldn't be happier for Paul! I've been a fan of his (and Morgan's) for a while now and he was incredible tonight. He rocked it out and it showed a LOT about him as a man and as an athlete that he put that horrible fall behind him and rocked out Pbars and Hbar. Awesome. That's like, *the* moment of the week for me!!

    So, the US men won the team silver, the US women answered with their own silver. Paul just won the AA gold, which US woman will answer that statement?! My early fave, Carly. Let's go USA!!!

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    AWESOME clutch performance -- and I think anger may have helped him, because Paul looked seriously PO'ed after that vault error. But jeez, how many mistakes did everyone else make for him to climb back up like that? And man -- THAT VOICE!! I was certainly warned about that from a few posters here, but I guess I forgot to brace myself because I couldn't believe it; even for a male gymnast, that is SOME VOICE. Do you suppose the Romanians, Russians, et al, sound like that, too?? :D

    I think Brett McClure got a bit ripped off on the high-bar; yes, it had a low start value, but that 9.1 seemed low. Especially when contrasted with the sloppy routine that Ioan Suciu put on that pulled a 9.66!! (Which makes Dragelescu's comment about the judges holding up the Americans even MORE amusing.....)

    My personal highlight of the night, as far as individual performance goes, was Marian Draglescu's vault. WOW!! I don't much care for the vault, but that was incredible. I'm looking forward to seeing it again during the individual apparatus finals.

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    I'm not really happy about Marian and his teammate. They don't think Paul should have been allow to win with a fall and they felt his scores on the last 2 were too high. This coming from someone who got a 9.850 on his vault. Too bad they can't see that Paul was amazing on the parallel and high bar. It was perfect. If they would have given a 10 to Paul I feel it would have been justified and well deserved.

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    Thumbs down

    Just a couple of poor sport whiny babies. Ironically, one of them got a gift on the high bar as well.

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    Wow what a great night of men's gymnastics. Even though I knew the results I was still amazed at the outcome.

    Here is the quote form the Romanian Marian Dragulescu-
    "Everyone got a fair judgment, with the exception of the USA, which got a little more".

    Is he trying to say the judges cheated?


    Here is a funny quote form the other American Brett McClure talking about his last event the still rings-
    "One of my weakest events". "I was so sure about what was about to happen that I took a picture of the scoreboard after five rotations, because I figured I'd be dropping out".

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    Everyone got a fair judgment, with the exception of the USA, which got a little more
    He certainly is cute and does one of the best vaults I have ever seen....but what a piss poor attitude! You screwed the moose on that one buddy, let go of the bitterness!

    Paul won fair and square. I can't really see how any of his scores were too high. He gave the best Parallel and High Bar peformances of his life and didn't get 10s...but rather 9.837s. He was nailed for the mistake on the vault. And, he received nothing higher than the 9.7 range for three other very solid routines. I fail to see the unfair judgement.

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    Ditto - I felt that Paul won the competition fair and square! I admired him even more for being able to put what happened on the vault behind and went on to do even better in the rest of the competition. That high bar routine was amazing!

    Congrats, Paul! :o

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    I'm sorry , but for that big of a fall on the vault, that should have been in the 8.6 range.

    One thing I noticed was that the men were scored considerably higher than the ladies. What's up with that? It's like pulling teeth for a girl to pull anything over a 9.5 and a lot of guys were regularly scoring 9.6-9.75's with a lot of 9.8s.

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