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    Ladskater
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    Dick Button Misses Point of


    I watched the coverage of the Parade of Champions on both ABC and CTV and I have to say the ABC coverage paled in comparison to CTV's coverage. In particular, when Bourne and Kraatz did their program Dick Button and Peggy Flemming never said a word about their program nor did Dick mention anything about B&K's accomplishment in being the first North American ice dance couple to win the World title in ice dance. All he could muster was "how nice for them to end their career with the gold medal." Bourne and Kraatz not only won the gold medal they also broke the stronghold the Russian and European ice dancers have had on the ice dance discipline for years. They paved the way for other North American ice dance couples to be taken seriously by the judges. Anyway, I enjoyed CTV's coverage much better. Debbi Wilkes, Tracy Wilson and Rod Black were gracious to ALL the skaters. Sometimes Dick Button irks me!!

    Ladskater


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    rgirl181
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    Lads,
    I agree. In this case, some serious gushing was warranted. B&K's accomplishment was huge and should have been acknowledged. I think the rather lackadaisical attitude is probably due to them being ice dancers and non-US skaters.
    Rgirl

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    Joesitz
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    Trust me Ladd. The roar of the crowd at the Arena just blasted out when it was announced the Canadians had won the Dance. If ABC couldn't do it (do they ever?), the crowd loved B&K

    Joe

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    mike79
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    Re: Dick Button Misses Point of


    Hi Lad

    I've got a question. I missed the CTV coverage of the Parade of Champions. I was wondering if Elvis was doing commentary with the rest of the group, or was it just Rod, Tracy, and Debi?

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    Verbalgirl77
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    While there may not have been gushing at the Parade of Champions, there was some pretty major gushing after the free skate, at least there was by Susie Wynne on the ESPN rebroadcast last night.

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    SHINE2002
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    hmm


    So, ABC pales in comparison just because they didn't go on and on about B/K? Perhaps they didn't because it's an AMERICAN channel, and they aren't as crazy about B/K as we the Canadians are? Obviously the CTV's gushing wasn't enough for you. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

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    dizzydi7
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    Re: hmm


    First off, I didn't care for B & K's programs. Not that they didn't deserve to win. I just didn't like their programs nor their costumes. Maybe Dick didn't like them either. So why would he gush?

    Secondly, I did hear it mentioned more than once that if B & K won the World Championship they would be the first in North America, etc. Personally, I think it's a huge accomplishment for B & K.

    There have been many dance couples from a variety of countries other than those from Russia, Ukraine, etc. over the years who have deserved, if not first place, certainly to stand on the podium at world events. The problem has been with the judging. So in my opinion, although a great accomplishment for B & K, the real breakthrough was the judging which for some strange reason worked in their favor, finally. I do believe with this current "secret" system, this was a lucky draw for B & K. I somehow find it hard to believe that the judging was actually "fair".

    Fans of B & K do not read into this that I don't think they deserved first place. I absolutely believe they deserved to win. However, I think they have deserved to win at other events or at the very least place much higher than they were placed because of this block judging fiasco.

    Dizzy

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    mike79
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    Re: hmm


    Trust me Shine. ABC's coverage pales in comparison to Canadian coverage and to Eurosport coverage.

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    sk8m8
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    Re: hmm


    If the thread is about B&K's skate, I think that case has been made.

    As for Uncle Dick...
    I have notice a marked decline in Mr. B's abilities to verbalize. On the weekend show, I kept wondering if they were editing out Button in the taped segments such as Ice Dance. I feel very sorry for him. He is as irrasible as ever, however his verbal skills aren't nearly as sharp as a few years ago. I know he suffered a head injury while skating. I wonder if it has effected his speech patterns?

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    Ladskater
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    SHINE2002:

    I did not care for any of ABCs coverage of the skating. It was not just the B&K coverage; besides "gushing" is not the term I would use - I hate any kind of "gushing" over any skater. I just like to see credit given to an historic moment and Dick really missed this one. B&K are a class act and certainly have all the support of Canada behind them as well as many fans around the world. They certainly would be the last ones to worry about Dick Button and company "gushing" over them. However, it would have been nice for Dick to at least acknowldege the accomplishement.


    Ladskater

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    Ladskater
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    dizzydi7:

    They won this one fair and square. And yes, they have been "robbed" in the past - due to bad judging. I think this time the judging was right. I loved their OSP, it was beautiful especially when they performed it at the Canadians. One of their best ever. Their long program was not my favorite. I will always love Riverdance the best because I think it shows off their style better and it was a fresh idea. This program had more of a European or Russian feel to it to me. I have seen similar programs from Russian ice dancers; However, Shae and Vic put their own personalities into it and their own style that's what made it so powerful. Also, after years of trying to skate programs that the judges just did not get or like they finally found a formula that worked. It was great.

    Ladskater

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    BronzeisGolden02
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    Dick and B/K


    Their freedance was lovely as usual, but certainly not B&K's best ever. Was it the best at Worlds? Definitely. Also, I don't believe ice dancing is really a speciality or favorite of Dick's, is it? I could be wrong, I've just never heard him voice much of an opinion when it comes to that discipline (well, besides the judging!). Poor Dick, he rubs so many the wrong way, but I find him to be unique and open. He is aging and has trouble with constructing certain phrases, but I get his point (usually, LOL!).

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    Ladskater
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    Re: Dick Button Misses Point of


    BronzieisGolden02:

    As a former skater, I have always loved ice dance - not that I was a great ice dancer myself - I actually loved free skating more. I guess I forget there are others who do not get as enthusiastic about ice dance! Neither Peggy nor Dick were ice dancers so I guess it would not have as much meaning to them. My apologies for overreacting.

    Ladskater

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    DORISPULASKI
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    Re: Dick Button Misses Point of


    I have been rewatching the coverage of the 88 Olympics, which was done by ABC. The ice dance was Dick by himself along with Jim McKay (predecessor in the Terry Gannon role.)
    Dick was gushing away about the concept of ice dance in general. He made the point that at the level of the CD's, it just made him want to get out on the ice with a partner and participate.

    dpp

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    rgirl181
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    Re: Dick's Verbal Skills


    Sk8m8,
    I think you have a good point, though an unfortunate one. I've noticed Dick fumphering a lot this year too. Between the head injury and age, I think it's understandable, but it's still frustrating--though probably far more for him than any of us. The guy still has so much to give to the sport, this age and injury is tough for any professional, especially one who has been in the businesss as long as Dick Button. I agree with Mike, though. From the little I've seen of Canadian and European coverage of figure skating, the US has a ways to go.

    Lad,
    I meant "gush" in a "give sufficient credit and have the proper amount of excitement about it" kind of way. It probably was the wrong word to use though since it tends to have a negative connotation.
    Rgirl

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