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    Sasha Cohen - Robin Wagner Breakup?

    I've read some disturbing reports about the apparent cooling of the relationship between Sasha Cohen and her coach, Robin Wagner. Cohen went to Connecticut this summer, without Wagner, to train with other coaches, and she seems to be mentioning Wagner less and less in her journal entries. Perhaps there's absolutely nothing to all of this, and I sincerely hope that's the case.

    I thought the pairing of Cohen and Wagner was a stroke of genius. Wagner appears to be such a positive, intelligent person and such a good motivator, and she and Cohen seemed to have clicked almost immediately.

    Perhaps, however, Cohen is blaming her coach for her second-place finishes at the Grand Prix, US Nationals, and Worlds last year - all of which she would have won, had she skated clean long programs.

    Perhaps Cohen thought that Wagner would instantly and magically transform her from a perpetual wanabee into a champion, ala Sarah Hughes. Cohen should remember that Hughes and Wagner worked together for many years, first as a choregrapher, and later as a coach. "Overnight success" is a rare thing in figure skating, IMHO.

    Does anyone have an update on this situation?

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    I haven't heard of any breakup of Wagner and Cohen. I think it would be the wrong thing to do at this point (think Kwan and Carol).

    My own feeling about Cohen is that she is at her maximum except for the jumps. When you think of it, have you heard anyone mention how wonderful her jumps are? I think they have improved, but, while they are no longer wobbily, they are not what I would call solid. I would suggest six weeks of lessons with Arutunian. I believe, after that, we will have the complete Sasha.

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    But would Arutunian give Sasha lessons now he is a full-time coach of Michelle? It sounds like a nice idea to have Sasha take some jumping lessons. Her air positions are good, but that's not all jumps are about. I don't like Sasha's Swan Lake choreography in Campbell's though. While calming mood of the program was nice, it was so front-loaded and empty.

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    Now you guys are cracking me up. I would say it would be over between MK and Aruturian since he is now her official coach. If he's sticking with Michelle then I think he would haved to bypass Cohen. Besides I think she went to him before...did she improve then?

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    I think that while Arutunian is an excellent match for Michelle, I doubt he'd work well with Sasha (even if it were an option). He seems rather impersonal, with huge emphasize on work ethics.

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    Sasha coach

    Wouldn't it be cool if Sasha found someone who would put 6-7 thousand CDs in the player and let her skate until she found something to call her own?
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    And he is having MK skate to Spartacus (Armenian composer) with that beautiful melody which Don and Hunt used in their LP. It will depend on who skates first with the glorious music of Tschaikowsky (Cohen) or Khataturian (Kwan). Oh, the schmaltz of it all.

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    Cohen-Wagner Breakup?

    Lots of skaters will work with another coach over the summers, and their main coach during the season. What about Sasha staying with Robin during the season, but spending a summer in St. Petersburg to work on her jumps with Alexei Mishin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka
    I think that while Arutunian is an excellent match for Michelle, I doubt he'd work well with Sasha (even if it were an option). He seems rather impersonal, with huge emphasize on work ethics.
    But off ice, he is not too afraid to get in personal with skaters, especially those he loves. And Michelle happen to be one of them. I would say he is a typical Rusian coach. Strick on the ice, very caring off the ice.

    Yes. RA had worked with Sasha before when Sasha trainned at Cal. And in person Sasha is very nice sweet girl, according to the ppl saw her at the rink, not as what media tried to potrait her personality on the TV screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan4Life
    Does anyone have an update on this situation?
    There is no "update" as there is no tension. A reporter who seems to spend a lot of time reporting about Sasha and Robin has stated that they are having no problems whatsoever. The only "reports" I've seen are rumors spread by Phil Hersh in his article and people making comments on it.

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    Those rumors have been swirling for awhile now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyfan
    Lots of skaters will work with another coach over the summers, and their main coach during the season. What about Sasha staying with Robin during the season, but spending a summer in St. Petersburg to work on her jumps with Alexei Mishin?
    I see her working with Mishin but not Aruturian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linny
    Wouldn't it be cool if Sasha found someone who would put 6-7 thousand CDs in the player and let her skate until she found something to call her own?
    Linny
    That's depending on whether Sasha would have enough time to wrestle herself from all of her other committments :sheesh:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzheng
    Yes. RA had worked with Sasha before when Sasha trainned at Cal. And in person Sasha is very nice sweet girl, according to the ppl saw her at the rink, not as what media tried to potrait her personality on the TV screen.
    So since Sasha evidently needs to work on her jumps, maybe it would not have been such a bad idea if she had asked him to be her coach instead of Robin.

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    I thought Sasha worked some with Richard Callahan over the summer. I could be wrong but I'm sure I was given this info. Also that perhaps he would continue to help with jumps. My summer and fall have been sorta out there so I could be totally mistaken on who gave me what on who!

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