Chris Bowman arrested in gun incident
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Where are you guys?
Guffaw Guffaw....I don't know where you all live, but in California, even a kid freshly passing Sr. moves and with a friend in the right rink can get set up into a $50,000 to $100,000 /year situation, and for sure doesn't have to work as hard at it as, say, a first year public school teacher ( who, by the way, doesn't come close to those figures until retirement 30 years later).
Chris did coach. I ran into him in Acton Mass at the Olympia once, and he had one private student from GA at the time (2-3 lessons daily, 5 days a week), who probably paid him in the $50,000/year neighborhood alone....
Otherwise, I don't know what to think of the story. I, too, thought he'd put his life on the straight and narrow with his wife and baby and a decent job commentating for ESPN. I'm disappointed, but not shocked. I've never understood it when people respond to great talent or opportunity or great good fortune by destroying themselves. Personally, I keep trying to convince God that I would make a FABULOUSLY responsible and worthy million-dollar lotto winner. I promised to not run out and drown myself with drink and drugs if He dumps all that in my lap.
Guffaw Guffaw....I don't know where you all live, but in California, even a kid freshly passing Sr. moves and with a friend in the right rink can get set up into a $50,000 to $100,000 /year situation, and for sure doesn't have to work as hard at it as, say, a first year public school teacher ( who, by the way, doesn't come close to those figures until retirement 30 years later).
Chris did coach. I ran into him in Acton Mass at the Olympia once, and he had one private student from GA at the time (2-3 lessons daily, 5 days a week), who probably paid him in the $50,000/year neighborhood alone....
Otherwise, I don't know what to think of the story. I, too, thought he'd put his life on the straight and narrow with his wife and baby and a decent job commentating for ESPN. I'm disappointed, but not shocked. I've never understood it when people respond to great talent or opportunity or great good fortune by destroying themselves. Personally, I keep trying to convince God that I would make a FABULOUSLY responsible and worthy million-dollar lotto winner. I promised to not run out and drown myself with drink and drugs if He dumps all that in my lap.
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jesslily said:
There are thousands of competitive skaters. Citing the success of one of them does not apply to all of them.
1. What clubs now are looking for coaches?
2. How does a 'new coach' get started before he has his few years experience?
3.. Must a skater come to the US to make big bucks?
4. New college grads do not make $70k right away, but their chance of being hired is greater than a coach looking for a position.even in a recession.
I'm not against a skater whose retiring to consider coaching. I should hope he is planning his future. What I am objecting to is posters suggesting that they 'go pro' before they want to without knowing the market. What is the real sreason for the use of that term 'go pro'?
Joe
I do not encourage all senior skaters go to coaching business. If you have a college degree, it's better to find jobs outside of skating world.
If you want to coach, you don't have to turn pro right away. Some people compete while coaching. If you are with a elite coach for a while, I'm sure he/she has some biginners let you teach. And many skaters start at teaching group lessons to get basic experience.
To teach at a major club, you have to send in the papers to the board. As long as you have every thing, it shouldn't a problem to teach there.
At local smaller club, you just simply talk to the director of skating program or the rink owner.
I don't know coaching in Europe. But it said the Canadian coaches are paid less than USA.
Certainly there are better market in USA and so many coaches from Russia came here teaching. You see they drive fancy cars...
If you want to coach, you don't have to turn pro right away. Some people compete while coaching. If you are with a elite coach for a while, I'm sure he/she has some biginners let you teach. And many skaters start at teaching group lessons to get basic experience.
To teach at a major club, you have to send in the papers to the board. As long as you have every thing, it shouldn't a problem to teach there.
At local smaller club, you just simply talk to the director of skating program or the rink owner.
I don't know coaching in Europe. But it said the Canadian coaches are paid less than USA.
Certainly there are better market in USA and so many coaches from Russia came here teaching. You see they drive fancy cars...
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That;s it Jess. Let the skater decide whent to retire and let us hope he has thought it out what he can do in retirement. He may go to medical school as some have, and at least one of them became a skating judge. Nice to keep up with the sport. There are things out there for the skaters and they know it, and when to go after it.
Obisously, Chris did not like coaching, commentating, figure skating. Sad!
Joe
Obisously, Chris did not like coaching, commentating, figure skating. Sad!
Joe
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Jess - Just when I think you understand the gist of what is bugging me in this thread, you come back with another point on coaching. :sheesh:
Jess, fyi, I used to figure skate. I know coaches. I know they make a living. I know some who eke out a living. Can we agree on this topic of coaching? I have nothing in oppositiion to what you are saying. Our only difference in this subject is that I don't believe there are that many vacancies for coaching. With so many ex-skaters those vacancies fill up very quickly and the ones who did not get the coaching jobs have to think of other means of retirement. Over and Out!
Now since we are not at odds on Coaching. Praise to be! Could you please respond to my pet peeve that the phrase 'go pro' is basically a poster saying to a skater that the skater is all washed up, taking up space for a younger skater, not to my liking, failing to improve over the years, never gets on the podium, or any other negative points of view of the skater, And the phrase 'go pro' is never really defined at what area of 'pro' the skater should go to. It is just to wipe the skater out of sight. I have never read that a skater should join SOI like SOI is just waiting to get him/her (Unless he/she is a definite money maker.) The jobs at SOI are very limited. Am I correct?
In fact, when a poster uses the term 'go pro', it is a euphenism(sp) for 'I want you out of here.'
Joe
Jess, fyi, I used to figure skate. I know coaches. I know they make a living. I know some who eke out a living. Can we agree on this topic of coaching? I have nothing in oppositiion to what you are saying. Our only difference in this subject is that I don't believe there are that many vacancies for coaching. With so many ex-skaters those vacancies fill up very quickly and the ones who did not get the coaching jobs have to think of other means of retirement. Over and Out!
Now since we are not at odds on Coaching. Praise to be! Could you please respond to my pet peeve that the phrase 'go pro' is basically a poster saying to a skater that the skater is all washed up, taking up space for a younger skater, not to my liking, failing to improve over the years, never gets on the podium, or any other negative points of view of the skater, And the phrase 'go pro' is never really defined at what area of 'pro' the skater should go to. It is just to wipe the skater out of sight. I have never read that a skater should join SOI like SOI is just waiting to get him/her (Unless he/she is a definite money maker.) The jobs at SOI are very limited. Am I correct?
In fact, when a poster uses the term 'go pro', it is a euphenism(sp) for 'I want you out of here.'
Joe
SOC is really for skaters who have major titles and for someone who helps the company making money. SImilar in academic world, not every college grad can find jjob matching he dreams and what he has learned. About 40% of college grads can not find the right jobs after graduation. Probablly just very few business major grads can find jobs at NY Stock Exchange, entry level jobs running statistics report...
How each skater did from prelimitary to Senior level is decided by many factors. After skating is done, what you want to do is very individual. I doubt some skaters that naive and not consider other career options if skating does not provide enough living resources.
At any club, there are many parents who are willing to pay coach at least one lesson a day, 5 days a week to teach their kids, some of them are willing to pay 2 or 3 lessons a day to a coach. Sure they really want to have a coach who love their kids, no eating and drinking, no routinely 5 or 8 minutes late, no chatting with other kids while coaching the kid who pays
How each skater did from prelimitary to Senior level is decided by many factors. After skating is done, what you want to do is very individual. I doubt some skaters that naive and not consider other career options if skating does not provide enough living resources.
At any club, there are many parents who are willing to pay coach at least one lesson a day, 5 days a week to teach their kids, some of them are willing to pay 2 or 3 lessons a day to a coach. Sure they really want to have a coach who love their kids, no eating and drinking, no routinely 5 or 8 minutes late, no chatting with other kids while coaching the kid who pays
