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    Sasha mentioned her 2002 intentions at 2004 Nationals, and observed she still wants to do the same thing (win OGM and retire), but it's taking a lot longer than she thought. OTOH, if she doesn't win the OGM at Torino, I doubt very much she'd stick around for 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euterpe
    Sasha mentioned her 2002 intentions at 2004 Nationals, and observed she still wants to do the same thing (win OGM and retire), but it's taking a lot longer than she thought. OTOH, if she doesn't win the OGM at Torino, I doubt very much she'd stick around for 2010.
    Well, at Sasha defence. You can't fault her for not sticking around for 2010. If Michelle is too old for 2006 according to some fans, then Sasha would be too old for 2010 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzheng
    Well, at Sasha defence. You can't fault her for not sticking around for 2010. If Michelle is too old for 2006 according to some fans, then Sasha would be too old for 2010 as well.
    Well I certainly don't think she would be too old if she did stay in for 2010. In fact the more power to her if she chose to do so. However, I doubt that she has the mettle nor the desire to stay in for that long. I, too, share the sentiment that she will retire after 2006 even if sihe doesn't win gold at Turin.

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    Actually I kind of agree some posters said above that, Sasha is not in FS for the love of it.

    It was said she was originally trainned for gymnastics, her parents (mostly her mom) had or encourage her switch to figure skating, because 1) She was sometimes lost focus on the beam, her mom thought it was very dangerous had her fall off the beam, so looking for other sports she can play in. 2) The figure skating seems fit the bill, her exceptional gift on flexability can be well displayed on ice unlike in gymnastics where a lot of gifted kids have the comparable flexability. Besides at the time it looked much easier to make fame in Figure Sakting then in Gymnastics.

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    Besides at the time it looked much easier to make fame in Figure Sakting then in Gymnastics
    I kind of agree with you here. I think that the average American might know more figure skaters than gymnasts, although it does depend on which Olympics is going on during that year.

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    There are not a lot of flexible kids in gymnastics than in figure skating. My daughter has done gymnastics in a few local gyms. There are about over 60 kids in teams at any gym. I don't remember many of them could even do a nice split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzheng
    It was said she was originally trainned for gymnastics, her parents (mostly her mom) had or encourage her switch to figure skating, because 1) She was sometimes lost focus on the beam, her mom thought it was very dangerous had her fall off the beam, so looking for other sports she can play in. 2) The figure skating seems fit the bill, her exceptional gift on flexability can be well displayed on ice unlike in gymnastics where a lot of gifted kids have the comparable flexability. Besides at the time it looked much easier to make fame in Figure Sakting then in Gymnastics.
    Where does this story come from? I seem to hear it all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesslily
    There are not a lot of flexible kids in gymnastics than in figure skating. My daughter has done gymnastics in a few local gyms. There are about over 60 kids in teams at any gym. I don't remember many of them could even do a nice split.
    There are lots of flexible kids in ballet school. When they go on to compete for a chance at a pro job, they are totally flexible and splits are just the easiest thing to do. It is used as a step and not for gawking. When I say totally flexible that's exactly what I mean. It's more than arabesques, and their flexibility is absolutely required for a half hour ballet - not just two tricks in 3 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED DOG
    Where does this story come from? I seem to hear it all the time.
    There are lots of brief biographies of Sasha on her fan sites. Also, she wrote an autobiogrphy (Sasha Cohen: Fire on Ice, with Kathy Goebeken, for children). They all mention that Sasha started taking gymnastics at five (achieving a "level five" ranking), switched to figure skating at 7 with group lessons, and started skating seriously at 10. That much seems fact.

    http://www.geocities.com/sasha_prima...biography.html

    Some of these biographies give as the reason for the switch that Sasha's mom was afraid of injury in gymnastics.

    http://members.tripod.com/sasha_cohen/bio.html

    Tara's story is similar. She started in roller skating, becoming, IIRC, world champion in her age group. Then she switched to figure skating because that sport offered the rewards of greater public exposure. (Some people say that that's why she could never do a proper Lutz -- she retained her jump take-off habits from roller skating, where the mechanics are different because the skate is so heavy.)

    Seems true -- at least I have no reason to doubt these accounts.

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    Last edited by Mathman; 01-05-2005 at 05:59 PM.

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    Flexibility is even more important in ballet than in skating and gymnastics. Without it, basically you can not dance at all. I do not mean that the split is the only criteria to measure the flexibility. My daughter's two friends, one does ballet for 12 years, and the other has practiced gymnastics over 8 years, neither of them can do a reasonable split, I mean at least two legs straight on the floor. The gymnast can do back hand spring, but can not do back walkover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Dog
    Where does this story come from? I seem to hear it all the time.
    Read from diff internet disscussion boards/group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    There are lots of brief biographies of Sasha on her fan sites. Also, she wrote an autobiogrphy (Sasha Cohen: Fire on Ice, with Kathy Goebeken, for children). They all mention that Sasha started taking gymnastics at five (achieving a "level five" ranking), switched to figure skating at 7 with group lessons, and started skating seriously at 10. That much seems fact.

    http://www.geocities.com/sasha_prima...biography.html

    Some of these biographies give as the reason for the switch that Sasha's mom was afraid of injury in gymnastics.

    http://members.tripod.com/sasha_cohen/bio.html

    Tara's story is similar. She started in roller skating, becoming, IIRC, world champion in her age group. Then she switched to figure skating because that sport offered the rewards of greater public exposure. (Some people say that that's why she could never do a proper Lutz -- she retained her jump take-off habits from roller skating, where the mechanics are different because the skate is so heavy.)

    Seems true -- at least I have no reason to doubt these accounts.

    Mathman
    OK, thanks. Looks like the truth is that she switched to skating from gymnastics at age 7, but something tells me that the rest is just speculation.

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    Red Dog, Being the HUGE Cohen fan that you obviously are, I'm surprised you didnt' know already about her history in gymnastics.
    I don't think the poster speculated anything. It's fairly obvious that Sasha loves the spotlight and wants to be famous.

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    What's wrong tobe famous, or want to be famous? If you can make some contribution in a particular field and become famous, I think you deserve it. Sasha is very talented and work hard for the past few years, so she is famous. Which competitive skater just want to land jumps and does not care how fairly he/she should be placed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesslily
    What's wrong tobe famous, or want to be famous? If you can make some contribution in a particular field and become famous, I think you deserve it. Sasha is very talented and work hard for the past few years, so she is famous. Which competitive skater just want to land jumps and does not care how fairly he/she should be placed?
    No body said she or her parents was wrong. Had I had a daughter like her in the same situation, I would've steer my daughter the same way as her parents too. LOL. We are just talk the talk.

    And the fact shown that her mom's steering is right on. To someone talked about in her daughter's gymnastics class hardly anyone had the flexibility like Sasha. Well, now, you have to look at big picture, the world stage. Had Sasha stayed in gymnastics, do you really think she could've pull off AllAround Silver medal at Worlds? or 4th place AllAround in Olympics? I honestly doubt.

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