Connection Between WC and Olys wins?
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OK, here are statistics for all 4 discipline starting from 1968 (ran some queries against my FS database 
; years refer to Olympic years)
Ladies
Went on to win Olympics:
1968 Fleming
1972 Schuba
1988 Witt
1992 Yamaguchi
1994 Baiul
1998 Lipinski
Those who didn't (and their places)
1976 de Leeuw (2nd)
1980 Fratiane (2nd)
2002 Kwan (3d)
Men
Went on to win Olympics:
1972 Nepela
1984 Hamilton
Those who didn't
1976 Volkov (5)
1980 Kovalev (2)
1988 Orser (2)
1992 Browning (6)
1994 Browning (5)
1998 Stojko (2)
2002 Plushenko (2)
Pairs
Went on to win Olympics:
1968 Belousova & Protopopov
1972 Rodnina & Ulanov
1976 Rodnina & Zaitsev
1984 Valova & Vasiliev
1988 Gordeeva & Grinkov
1992 Mishkutenok & Dmitriev
2002 Salle & Pelletier
Those who didn't
1980 Babilonia & Gardner (withdrew)
1994 Brasseur & Esiler (3)
1998 Wotzel & Steur (3)
Dance teams
Went on to win Olympics:
1980 Lininchuk & Karponosov
1984 Torvill & Dean
1988 Bestemianova & Bukin
1998 Gritchuk & Platov
Those who didn't
1976 Moiseeva & Minenkov (2)
1992 Duchesnay & Duchesnay (2)
1994 Usova & Zhulin (2)
2002 Fusar-Poli & Margaglio (3)
; years refer to Olympic years)Ladies
Went on to win Olympics:
1968 Fleming
1972 Schuba
1988 Witt
1992 Yamaguchi
1994 Baiul
1998 Lipinski
Those who didn't (and their places)
1976 de Leeuw (2nd)
1980 Fratiane (2nd)
2002 Kwan (3d)
Men
Went on to win Olympics:
1972 Nepela
1984 Hamilton
Those who didn't
1976 Volkov (5)
1980 Kovalev (2)
1988 Orser (2)
1992 Browning (6)
1994 Browning (5)
1998 Stojko (2)
2002 Plushenko (2)
Pairs
Went on to win Olympics:
1968 Belousova & Protopopov
1972 Rodnina & Ulanov
1976 Rodnina & Zaitsev
1984 Valova & Vasiliev
1988 Gordeeva & Grinkov
1992 Mishkutenok & Dmitriev
2002 Salle & Pelletier
Those who didn't
1980 Babilonia & Gardner (withdrew)
1994 Brasseur & Esiler (3)
1998 Wotzel & Steur (3)
Dance teams
Went on to win Olympics:
1980 Lininchuk & Karponosov
1984 Torvill & Dean
1988 Bestemianova & Bukin
1998 Gritchuk & Platov
Those who didn't
1976 Moiseeva & Minenkov (2)
1992 Duchesnay & Duchesnay (2)
1994 Usova & Zhulin (2)
2002 Fusar-Poli & Margaglio (3)
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Ptichka said:
So dance is actually pretty even...cool =)
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True, but both Fusar-Piolu & Margaglio's and the Duchesnays' World wins were controversial to say the least. Then again, I can certainly see N&K winning in Moscow and D&S in Turin (or, at a stretch, vice versa).thisthingcalledlove said:
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What abou Uncle Dick? and:
Albrecht
Heiss
the Netherlands gal
Don Jackson
Jan Hoffmann
just asking if they could be included.
I understand we are only looking at winners of Worlds and either Win or Lose the Olys. Hamil, did not win the Worlds but she did win the Olys.
Joe
Albrecht
Heiss
the Netherlands gal
Don Jackson
Jan Hoffmann
just asking if they could be included.
I understand we are only looking at winners of Worlds and either Win or Lose the Olys. Hamil, did not win the Worlds but she did win the Olys.
Joe
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1947 Worlds: 1. Gerschwiler 2. ButtonJoesitz said:
1948 Olympics: 1. Button 2. Gerschwiler
1951 World & 1952 Olympics: 1.Button
1959 World: 2nd
1960 Olympics: 3d
1979 World: 3d
1980 Olympics: 2nd
Albright
1951 World: wasn't there or didn't medal
1952 Olympics: 2nd
1955 World & 1956 Olympics: won
1955 World & 1956 Olympics: 2nd
1959 World: 1. Dijkstra 2. Heiss
1960 Olympics: 1. Heiss 2. Dijsktra
Do you mean Dijkstra or de Leeuw?
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Thanks Pitchka - I did mean Dijkstra.
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Ptichka said:
She was 6th
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thisthingcalledlove said:
The school figures counted for 60 percent of the Olympic score in the 1960s.
Danzer was the defending World Champion going into Grenoble, 1968, but his fourth-placement in the school figures cost him the gold medal. In those days, the scores were cumulative - so many points for the figures, so many points for the long program. If you finished down in the standings in the figures, there was little chance of pulling up to win, not with that 60/40 split.
Danzer did rebound to win the 1968 World title, but I suspect that was little consolation to him, as he failed to win the big prize - Olympic gold.
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SkateFan4Life said:
Wolfie didn't go to the 68 worlds =( I think he knew his medal would've tarnished had he gone to worlds...
Trixi Schuba could've won a medal in 68, had she not fallen apart completely in the free skate.
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thisthingcalledlove said:
Wolfgang Schwartz was a classic example of "grab the gold and say goodbye". He knew he was darned lucky to have won at Grenoble and to have upset the defending World Champion. Can't blame him one bit for exiting the competitive arena!
As for Trixi Schuba, I doubt that she would have won a medal at Grenoble, as the medals were won by the same trio from the 1967 Worlds - Peggy Fleming (gold), Gaby Seyfert (silver), and Hana Maskova (bronze). Maskova was beautiful, tall young woman from Czechoslovakia who had powerful, high jumps. She skated a strong long program at the Olympics. She would have won the bronze, regardless of what Schuba did in the long program, IMHO.
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