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I didn't see the show at all, but it was interesting reading your comments about it.
To me, and this is JMO... The Worlds are more important to me and show me who the most consistent and best skaters are in the world. When someone like Kurt and Michelle win numerous World titles, and then skater comes along at Olympic time, that may or may not have been a World Champion before is all of a sudden labelled the best skater because they won that Olympic Gold.
I wish the skaters wouldn't put so much emphasis on the Olympics, but they do, that will never change.
And please do not think that I feel that Petrenko, Kulik, Lapinski, Yamaguchi etc... are terrible skaters, because they are obviously not :lol:
Meh, I am tired and I hope this post makes sense
To me, and this is JMO... The Worlds are more important to me and show me who the most consistent and best skaters are in the world. When someone like Kurt and Michelle win numerous World titles, and then skater comes along at Olympic time, that may or may not have been a World Champion before is all of a sudden labelled the best skater because they won that Olympic Gold.
I wish the skaters wouldn't put so much emphasis on the Olympics, but they do, that will never change.
And please do not think that I feel that Petrenko, Kulik, Lapinski, Yamaguchi etc... are terrible skaters, because they are obviously not :lol:
Meh, I am tired and I hope this post makes sense
About Olympic winners and best skaters... I have never thought that to win a competition (Olympics, Worlds, Europeans) once or several times, means that the skater in question would be the best skater in the world. It means that she/he was the best skater in that specific competition. In my opinion the top mostly means more than just one skater, there are normally 3-5 to compete seriously about titles.
Olympics is though a very serious competition, where the nerves play a much bigger role than in Worlds. To fail in Olympics, means that a skater has to wait 4 more years to try again. If one does not win at Worlds, it just means that one can try next year again. It is not at all such a pressure as competing in Olympics. And especial Olympic pressure have all those skaters that are possible gold medal contenders. There are no surprise winners in figure skating at Olympics. E.g. from the latest winners such as Baiul, Urmanov, Lipinski, Kulik and Hughes were no surprise winners for those that follow figure skating.
Olympics is though a very serious competition, where the nerves play a much bigger role than in Worlds. To fail in Olympics, means that a skater has to wait 4 more years to try again. If one does not win at Worlds, it just means that one can try next year again. It is not at all such a pressure as competing in Olympics. And especial Olympic pressure have all those skaters that are possible gold medal contenders. There are no surprise winners in figure skating at Olympics. E.g. from the latest winners such as Baiul, Urmanov, Lipinski, Kulik and Hughes were no surprise winners for those that follow figure skating.
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I do not wish to minimize the accomplishments of the OGM skaters. It's terrific that they have achieved their ultimate sports dream. I will say that many of my most memorable SOI performances through the years (we've been going to the show since 1993) have also come from Kurt, Paul, Brian O., Bechke & Petrov & Roca & Sur. As for the current cast, give me Todd & Yuka anytime! 
Really, I seeing the individual performances of all the skaters & how they interact with each other in the ensemble pieces, regardless of Olympic/World "hardware". :agree:
Really, I seeing the individual performances of all the skaters & how they interact with each other in the ensemble pieces, regardless of Olympic/World "hardware". :agree:
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Yuka as Vamp
They showed a brief clip of Yuka vamping it up... in her interview, she mentions that this is a stretch for her.
Why on earth would they decide to have her vamp in the first place? There are so many other skaters who do this better... let them vamp and let Yuka do what Yuka does best. For goodness sakes...
Oh, most precious part was where Anton and Elena were being interviewed and she says something unexpected... he looks at her and says "Your English gets better and better..."
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They showed a brief clip of Yuka vamping it up... in her interview, she mentions that this is a stretch for her.
Why on earth would they decide to have her vamp in the first place? There are so many other skaters who do this better... let them vamp and let Yuka do what Yuka does best. For goodness sakes...
Oh, most precious part was where Anton and Elena were being interviewed and she says something unexpected... he looks at her and says "Your English gets better and better..."
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Of course I realize all of what you have stated as well.
Except, IMO and I was and have been following figure skating for a very long time, Oksana & Tara were some what surprise winners...I'm sure most fans were thinking that it was Nancy & Michelle who would take the Gold in those years.
I guess what my point was, you don't have to have that Olympic Gold to prove that you are one of the best skaters in the world. IMO as stated by others, Kurt is the best skater to ever set a blade on the ice.
I did also state:
It has to suck waiting another long 4 years to go at it again, I just feel sorry for those who are medal favourites, then they make that trip to the Olympics only to be deemed a failure by the media and some of their fans. No skater is a failure to get out there and do what they do. But I think it's crazy to base any sports figures career on how they do at the Olympics, especially those who win 4 Worlds Championships in a row.
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I too have been watching figure skating a long time, way beyond Nancy & Oksana. Actually I thought that Oksana had very good chances to win the gold and I rooted for her. As well as for Urmanov. To me Oksana was no surprise winner at all. The same applies to Tara. Of course Michelle was seen as a likely Olympic champion, but both Michelle and Tara were World champions, and I never thought that Tara could be counted out.
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That is why I said "somewhat" surprise winners, because for most fans...I'm sure that was the case. Urmanov was no surprise winner either, although I am one who doesn't agree with the outcome of that men's event... but that is a whole different storyJaana said:
Anyways, I am just stating my opinions and not denying that ANY of these skaters who have won Olympic Gold weren't excellent skaters and deserved those medals. There are just a lot of other skaters out there who have just as much Olympic Gold in thier blood, without ever winning it.
What is an eye-opener is seeing the latest lady OGM winner, totally out of shape at age 19, and barely able to do jumps a novice could do in her sleep. This, compared to Olympic medal-less Yuka Sato and 1992 OGM winner Yamaguchi, who are both in their 30s but can still do triple jumps and hold their spirals without wobbling.
In 1999-2000 Irina Slutskaya developed curves, too, and it threw her skating off for awhile. She had to adapt her diet and exercise routines to her new body and take off the excess weight so she could regain her form.
Sarah needs to do that, too. It's obvious that just skating in SOI isn't going to do it---too much sitting around on busses or in airports.
Sarah needs to do that, too. It's obvious that just skating in SOI isn't going to do it---too much sitting around on busses or in airports.
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At first I was irritated that they were showing other SOI years and then pleased that I got to see G&G's program. Their program seemed effortless and how gentle he would set her down. Other than that, I am looking forward to A&E's SOI, I just hope they do it this year.
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