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    What's in store for Michael Weiss?

    It seems to me that Michael Weiss is no longer a contender to win the US men's title, not against the likes of Weir, Goebel, and Lysacek, and also because Weiss continue to deliver sloppy long programs. Once again he two-footed the landing of his quad lutz, and he had several other errors throughout his performance. Fifth place is about where he belonged, IMHO.

    Michael's time has come and gone, as far as I'm concerned. He won three US championships, two World bronze medals, and was a member of three Olympic teams. Very, very impressive, by any standard. He is still a strong skater and probably could enjoy a wonderful professional career. It's his decision, of course, as to whether or not he remains in the game. However, after last weekend, it really does seem that his skating and placement are going down, not up.

    What do you think? And please, I'm not bashing Michael personally!

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    In my opinion, Michael Weiss' decline from the standings isn't so much a matter of "age" (he's 28) as it's a matter of conditioning. When he was younger he was beefier and more muscular, and his programs looked stronger. He has lost weight and has a leaner "look" than he did five or six years ago. However, that weight loss seems to have also resulted in a loss of energy and stamina.
    At least that's the way it appears to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan4Life
    In my opinion, Michael Weiss' decline from the standings isn't so much a matter of "age" (he's 28) as it's a matter of conditioning. When he was younger he was beefier and more muscular, and his programs looked stronger. He has lost weight and has a leaner "look" than he did five or six years ago. However, that weight loss seems to have also resulted in a loss of energy and stamina.
    At least that's the way it appears to me.
    I think he said that he got leaner so that way he can do the rotations in the quad. I too preferred Mike when he was heavier, but perhaps his body couldn't hold up doing those rotations with the added weight. I do hope he stays in there for another year and try to make the World team. Maybe he will get another coach to help him with that jump technique.

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    Pro or amateur, I still will like his skating. I have seen him perform several times live, and his programs are always a crowd pleaser........42

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    The funny thing is, if you talk to Mike about the weight loss - he denies it and says his weight is unchanged...so go figure. I'll be very surprised if he comes back next season, at age 29. Sure - there's the lure of putting in a decent performance at One More Olympics, just as Todd and Elvis tried to do. But, he's already got 18 or so shows with SOI this season - so it would seem like he'd say hmmmm.....maybe it's time to take my bows and go pro.

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    Michael passed up the chance to do COI last summer, but now he seems to be interested in joining up with SOI. Does SOI pay more? It seems like COI would be easier -- basically just one solo performance a night, with not nearly so much group choreography to learn. But maybe that's what professional skaters like doing.

    To me, Mike has an unlimited future as a professional. He is more consistently entertaining than either Todd or (dare I say it?) Alexei.

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    I do think that it is unlikely Mike can be on top of the US Nats podium again. And now he has to compete with the likes of young Evan and the new improved Matt not to mention up and comers like Rogers and others. I think if he dumped the quad he could do better in the SP and the LP. No US man is nailing them now with any regularity anyway including Tim. He really seems to have lost muscle mass on his upper bod. Maybe that has sapped his power. He looks quite slight to me. I think it is only a possibility he could skate well enough to capture a bronze medal and that is no more than a possibility. I do think his best days are behind him but if he wants to continue competing and can take the disappointment of not being on the podium (a big if) he should. I'm sure the fact that he cannot master the quad and that others are passing him hurts but hey that's sports.

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    I agree with what you said skatefan. I'm a Mike fan, but I don't see him sticking it out for one more year, nor do I think he should. I think he'll probably do the shows with SOI (And I get to see him in Orlando. I'm so excited!) and then probably evaluate then. I saw him on the last tv special and thought he was much better in that type of program than competitive. It's less pressure and it lets his personality shine through and be more relaxed. And who knows? Maybe once the pressure is off, he'll finally land that quad.

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    I think Mike will go pro at this point. I have enjoyed his skating show programs this season (the Disson ones, Bocelli on Ice, & Holiday Celebration on Ice). He is our "guest star" for our SOI shows (Philly & Trenton), and while I'm not a fan of the "cheesy" programs he did in his last few seasons with SOI, I am hopeful that he will perform entertaining, but tasteful programs with the show. I know he can do it, & I hope he will. Through his competitive career, I really enjoyed his Santana program, the Beethoven one (Egmont Overture?), "Mulan," & "On the Waterfront."

    Mathman, I still prefer Todd , who can be quite entertaining. Yea, I know he has a pretty serious persona (& IMHO excels at his "serious," dramatic programs), but he has his "fun" side too. I'm glad he's getting a chance to show his "fun" side as well as his "serious" side in SOI.
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    On my list of Fading Eligibles, along with Fumie Suguri, Michael's name now appears. This is not a bash of Michael (or Fumie) it is just that I believe their time has come. This is not a bash of Michael or anyone else who is on my list. It is just a reality of life. There are 'skating eras' where the skater is at his/her peak and those peaks do not last forever for any skater. It's his choice to continue to be eligible or not. That is his business, not mine.

    There are others on my list but that is another topic.

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    I think it'd be in his best interest to go pro. He's not a favorite of mine overall but I've seen him skate well in the past....lately, he just plain looks like a "has been".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanzibar
    The funny thing is, if you talk to Mike about the weight loss - he denies it and says his weight is unchanged...so go figure. I'll be very surprised if he comes back next season, at age 29. Sure - there's the lure of putting in a decent performance at One More Olympics, just as Todd and Elvis tried to do. But, he's already got 18 or so shows with SOI this season - so it would seem like he'd say hmmmm.....maybe it's time to take my bows and go pro.

    Are you sure?

    I recall during the 2002 season and then 2003 he appeared in a number of fluff TV segments (he got a lot of TV time in 2003 since the Worlds were in his hometown, sort of) and he discussed how much fitter he got over the last season (and he did say how he altered his diet). He talked how cool it would be for him to look back on the Olympic footage years later and say "wow, what a great shape I was in".

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    I'm not much a of fan but I feel bad for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    To me, Mike has an unlimited future as a professional. He is more consistently entertaining than either Todd or (dare I say it?) Alexei.
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    You didn't think I was going to let this go by did you, Math? I find your comment to be inane at best. Has senility settled in?? :sheesh:

    This is the first competition that I saw Mike somewhat just give up.

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    That's what I saw in Mike. It just looked like he gave up. It's like he knew they weren't going to give him the scores.

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