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    Ladies Qualifying A - Notes

    These notes are copyright Golden Skate, please do not cut & paste anywhere. You are welcome to link to them in another forum or send people over here to look at them.

    Once again, I'm not noting placements as the results are on the event website
    http://www.isufs.org/results/wjc2005/SEG005.HTM

    There was a major tech difficulty with Amanda Billing's marks and we waited easily 10 minutes for them to get things sorted out. Luckily she was the last skater in her flight, so hopefully the delay didn't hurt the ones after her too much.

    TUR Beril Bektas Start 1
    Notes music is hungarian rhapsody / red velvet with ibt of black / very slow into 2a under rot but stood up turns 2f / bailed on axel / bailed on flip / strt ftwrk is ok , music is way too fast for her / 3turns into 2l / combo spin is quite nice if a bit slow / spirals with change of edge in beilman pos / layback with arm variations almost fell out of spin at end / ftwrk into 2f turns 2s / 2z / flycam to end / pb / tes 17.02 tcs 2.32 tot 41.34 /

    SVK Radke Bartova Start 2
    Notes dark blue at top shading to white skirt & bell sleeves / bond medley / 3t? didn't see takeoff then another triple I missed the takeoff of / 3s / flycam is bit slow with nice extension / 2a on beat of music/ music slows & a sideways layback / looop didn't get off ice / spread eagle into spiralswith back change of edge in catchfoot pos / 2? think flip / 2a / she's kind of skating to the music but doesn't have any expression to speak of / pb 53.95 / tes 31.12 tcs 30 tot 61.12 /

    JPN Mao Asada Start 3
    Notes La Boutique Fantastique / light turqoise navy / music malfunction to start things off / she takes her time getting back into pos / clean 3a & rot in my eyes to start / fly cam is sustained & fast & centered with lovely pos / 3z2l bit of flutz / strt ftwrk is right with music /easy 2a to a pos / slow music & some chor & emoting / inside out spiral on strong edges / 3f / flat back layback stretching to sideways without coming up / 3f3t / 3z / music picks up now and combo spin with sidways sit & beillman / 3l2l2l / pb 114.92 / tes 59.52 tcs 52.80 tot 112.32 /

    ISR Tamar Katz Start 4
    Notes dr zhivage / dark navy with silver on swirly cutouts / she missed her first 3 jumps popping or falling out / nice flow & edges & very pretty spirals / 3z fell / popped loop then tried something else that I didn't really see / 3s hand sown turnout / layback is pretty with nice arm & back pos variations / 2a / strt ftwrk started out very well with music & complex / combo spin had some good pos but spin was a bit weak & slow / pb 67.78 / tes 26.60 tcs 32.08 ded 1 tot 57.68 /

    USA Kimmie Meissner Start 5
    Notes turqoise shading to royal blue at skirt / daphnis & chloe / 3f / popped z / some nice transitions & chor / 3a fell not sure if rotated enough / layback is pretty but not held long enough /back hydro blades into 3l that she fought for the landing on /3s / combo spin is well done with many pos variations / spirals have good height & extension / 3z fell / some great chor & moves into a 3f turns ? / flycam to end with illusion / pb 93.85 / tes 32.66 tcs 51.28 ded 2 tot 81.94 /

    SWE Amanda Nylander Start 6
    Notes malaguena / sparkley red with layered skirt with black at edges / some chor to set mood / 3s step out / 3t step out / flycam is sustained with good speed & nice extended pos / 3 turns into 3l nicely done /2f2t / spirals had a nice pos change exactly withmusic / 2a / layback is classic & well done / 2s / 2z2t went for 2l but not enough room at boards / strt ftwrk as music speeds up and crowd is clapping / combo spin to end is fast with good pos / pb 7 5.25 / tes 31.96 tcs 37.84 tot 69.80 /

    AUS Phoebe Di Tommaso Start 7
    Notes white at shoulder & one arm royal purple for rest / winter - bond / 2z2t2l not sure if loop was 2 or 1 / 2s / 2t / strt steps work with music - not too morozov / 2l / combo spin front half was good back was very slow / 2a turns 2t / think that was just some O ftwrk but didn't see to be a full circle - went well with music / 2a fell very tentative into it / 2f / pretty layback to end / pb / tes 25.86 tcs 29.44 ded 1 tot 54.30 /

    SUI Cindy Carquillat Start 8
    Notes red & grey velour with one grey elbow glove & on red / tangos / some good chor to start it off / 2f / flycam with good pos / reverse jumper / very light on her feet / 3s / there a bunch of people up behind me that gave out a big cheer when she landed thesal / 2t / fast centered layback reminded me of Ruh / 2l / 2s turns 2t / 1a 2t / strt steps are fairly complex & in tango mood / 2z 2ft / combo spin to end the program / pb 63.85 / tes 25.44 tcs 33.76 tot 59.20 /

    LUX Anna Bernauer Start 9
    Notes black velvet with square neck / talented Mr ripley soundtrack / 2s / 2z2t / 2s or t - takeoff really hard to see if pick went in / 2a think under rot / 2f2t / spirals are ok / 2s / layback is ok / strt ftwrk has about 1/2 on 1 foot / combo spi with lotsof pos variations that were a bit difrferent from the norm / pb 46.45 / tes 21.30 tcs 29.04 tot 50.34 /

    GEO Elene Gedevanishvili Start 10
    Notes ballet egyptien / white with mostly illusion top with silver & gold / 2a / 3t3t pretty sure 1st jump was a toe positiver 2nd one was / nice fly cam / 3f which is making me think 1st one was a flip too / 2z kind of bailed n the air / change of edge spiral with leg to her side in split / lovely ina into 3s fell out then both hands down / fast layback with change to sideways with both arms in same directly to beillman thant she fell out of / didn't really see the strt steps / 3t fell / high fly on fly cam / pb 64.18 / tes 34.44 tcs 37.84 ded 2 tot 70.28 /

    CHN Binshu Xu Start 11
    Notes mulan / red & black mandarin style catsuit - really effective / some movement in place with the music / 3z2t / 3t3t fell on 2nd one not enough room at boards, / 2a / fast flycam with layout pos very nice / strt ftwrk with music / music is really booming then softens into a 3l that might have had a bit of turnout / some chor at centre ice / fast layback from classic to strt leg with arms to one side / 3z / 3s / spirals hae great height & extension / 3f bit wobbly on landing but clean / combo spin with beillman & Y / pb 73.14 / tes 43.16 tcs 42.96 ded 1 tot 85.12 /

    USA Alissa Czisny Start 12
    Notes black strapless wit wilver design / swan lake / 2z fell out into the bord took a minute to get up / popped flip / 3turns into 3l then something I missed by the applause / flyspin into full split / some balletic chor to slow familiar melody / 3s fell / spirals are just gorgeous / popped z / 3t2t / classic layback with back variations are just beautiful / strt steps right with music / 2a / reverse jumper / combo spin to end is fast with great position s / pb 91.16 / tes 25.10 tcs 46.16 ded 2 tot 69.26 /

    ROM Roxana Boamfa Start 13
    Notes Lord of the rings / light pink with burgundy corest effect around waist / 2f turns 2t / think I missed a jump at the very beginning / flycam to catchfoot is slow but centered / 2f urns 2t / maybe one of the flips was a z / 2s landed on very low knee / 2l with hand over head turns into 2t / combo spin is ok / inside out spiral edge is a bit wobbly / 2z / for the most part the music is pretty much backgroun d / layback is a bit unique in the positioning of her straight leg / pb 37.76 / tes 20.26 tcs23.36 tot 43.62

    TPE Jocelyn Ho Start 14
    Notes red / cancion triste by jesse cook / red dress wwith bit of gold accents / 2a turns 2f / messy 2s / 3t not sure if entirely clean but pretty close / flycam has nice pos / some chor & emoting to slower music / 2z / 2f / 3s / layback with nice sideways pos/ spirals are ok bit slow / strt steps are ok / 2a at least I think it was a 2 / combo spin to end is ok / there were some good moments of skating to the music music a fair bit of it was background / pb 39.74 / tes 24.44 tcs 29.92 tot 54.36 /

    LAT Maria Balaba Start 15
    Notes utrqoise & light green bra & skirt effect / 2a / sheherazade / 2z / flycam has good pos bit slow / 2t / 2-1/2 sal / 2f2l horrible wrap on both / 2a fell out / 1z / strt steps expressed music / combo spin starts out back the goes to front / pb 47.60 /tes 20.46 tcs 25.36 tot 45.2 /

    CAN Amada Billings Start 16
    Notes black with flower on one side / music is havana / 3z hand down / loop didn't get off ice / layback is fast with foot to head / some chor & expression of music / 2f / 3t almost hand down but held off turns 2t / flycam to donut / she looks scared / slower music and some chor / 3z pitched forward turns 2t / spirals into 2a / music builds & strt steps express it well / 3s / combo spin is good ending in a Y / pb / tes 37.50 tcs 41.92 tot 79.42 /

    HUN Bianka Padar Start 17
    Notes black with spider web on back in silver / adams family / 3z very tight & wild on landing -- at least I think it was a triple / 3t bit wild turns 2t / some chor to the familiar part with finger snapping / triple ? with wild landing / flycam / 2l / combo spin got very slow / layback / spirals are soso / 3t / 3s / she was having a bit of fun during the finger snapping part but the rest has had very little relation to the music / pb 54.54 / tes 30.64 tcs 28.88 tot 59.52 /

    NED Sharon Resseler Start 18
    Notes ;uccini violin fantasy / black with net skirt with gold underlay / 3s fell / 2a / some nice chor with music / 1z2t / layback with nice arm & bak variations / O ftwrk is nice & flows with music very well / flycam has good pos but gets very slow near end /2a 2ft step out / 2f2t / 3t under rot stumbled out / spirals as music builds to the usual ending refrains / series of jumps that I didn't quite catch except the 2t at the end / combo spin / pb 46.54 / tes 21.54 tcs 28.64 ded 1 tot 49.18 /

    AZE Emma Hagieva Start 19
    Notes yellow & lime green with black netting over / don quixote by minkus / 3s not really steady but clean / 2a fell / 3l under rot fell / spin with nice beillman / 3s vrey tight almost hung on to landing / flycam to catch foot is slow / 2f very bad lean but it was done / lutz think she lost her place in the air and fell on both hands / combo spin to end with nice beillman / pb 43.83 / tes 15.26 tcs 24.80 ded 3 tot 37.06 /

    JPN Aki Sawada Start 20
    Notes Yellow river concerto / black with coloured design around waist / 3f2t / fly cam is fast with layover / 3z - flutz very close to boards / she's very fast across the ice l/3f / spirals are ok / 3l / layback with nice arm & back movement to new pos / 3s2t / strt ftwrk seem simple but move well with music 3t turns 2a / 3t / combo spin is well done / she moved very well with her music - very good skate / the japanese team up behind me is thrilled and showing it / pb 89.46 / tes 45.94 tcs 47.44 tot 93.38 /

    EST Elena Glebova Start 21
    Notes black velvet with bit of red at hip & cuffs / salome / 3t2t / 2a turn out steps 3s fell / loop didn't get off ice / 3f fell poss short rot / combo spin is good esp fast on back end / 2z / 2a / layback with foot to head / some playing to judges as she goes into O ftwrk / 3s lean step out / flycam back sit is fast / pb 66.61 / tes 24.20 tcs 31.60 ded 2 tot 53.80 /

    ESP Immaculada Robledo Start 22
    Notes dress was white with diag flower pattern / music was malaguena / and I lost all my notes - / think 3 landed 1 3s and a 2a / total score was 45.19 I think

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    Wow Mao Asada, she has a comfortable lead. She landed 3a, and 3/3. Where is the triple sal though

    Mao Asada (JPN) 112.32
    Yu-Na Kim (KOR) 102.98
    Aki Sawada (JPN) 93.38
    Mira Leung (CAN) 91.92
    Lilia Biktagirova (RUS) 89.32
    Kiira Korpi (FIN) 88.12
    Binshu Xu (CHN) 85.12
    Akiko Kitamura (JPN) 83.34
    Emily Hughes (USA) 83.12
    Kimmie Meissner (USA) 81.94

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    how many go through to final from qualifying rounds

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    Thanks Rosaleen!

    I bet your rear end must be REALLY sore by now!! Again, many thanks for your time reporting this. Even if you don't have time until after the whole thing is over, I'd be interested in your general observations about the quality of Group A compared to Group B and how the scoring ended up. I know this is asking a lot, and trust me, I'm not begging, just curious.

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    Mao Asada 3a

    Last edited by tukinowaguma; 02-28-2005 at 08:28 PM.

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    Thanks, Rosaleen. Always enjoy reading your reviews.

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    There are a lot of officials involved in the competition:

    The two groups have l0 judges and each group is different. The two groups have 4 officials and each group is different. A total for the entire score for the Ladies would be 20 judges and 8 officials.

    1. What will be the total number of judges scoring the SP competition?

    2. Of those how many will actually be used in the SP competition?

    3. Will the 4 officials used for the SP, not be used for the LP?

    4. Will the number of judges who were not used for the SP be included with the number used for the LP?

    5. Anything else I should be aware of in the administration of the competition?

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    On the USFS board, they said that Mao's 3A was downgraded to a 2A for underrotation.

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    Yes, although all of us (about 10 people sitting around me and in other parts of the arena) thought it was perfectly clean, the tech specialist downgraded it to a 2a

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    Did her 59 points in the tech scores reflect the downgrading?

    As the stakes get higher, it looks like there is going to be more "wuz robbed-ing" than ever before.

    Is there an any appeal process that a skater can initiate if it is felt that the tech specialist has blown a call?

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    Thanks for taking the time Rosaleen, to post these wonderful reports! We really appreciate it!

    And Mathman ... I was wondering the same thing about the tech specialist. It seems to be giving quite a bit of power to one person. And what if that person is wrong, or God forbid ... has an agenda of their own? Of course, we know that is very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    ... Is there an any appeal process that a skater can initiate if it is felt that the tech specialist has blown a call? MM
    I believe the ISU just issued a decree that such calls are "field of play" decisions, and cannot be challenged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyfan
    I believe the ISU just issued a decree that such calls are "field of play" decisions, and cannot be challenged.
    I almost can smell the 'scandal' in controversy judging at 2006 Olympics.

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    Thanks so much Rosaleen!

    As for the Asada's 3axel, I have never seen a fully rotated one from her yet. Usually it's just 1/6 or less but I can imagine that she could have cheated it more. We should reserve any comment until we see the jump on replay (which is never ).
    A caller would have never downgraded the jump without checking it again to make sure.

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    It can't be easy to judge the difference between 1/6 of a rotation and 1/4 of a rotation (30 degrees), even on instant replay and even if for an expert. Its a big responsibility. But referees have to make close calls like that in every sport, so I guess that's life.

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