Who are the five best in each event in order, right now?
This is not a prediction thread for Turin. It is who you would rate the five best skaters per event, in order, after the 2004/2005 season. It is based on personal opinion of course:
1)Shen/Zhou-They had to miss Worlds, Totmianina/Marinin have won the last two Worlds, and are 3-2 head to head with them in the new quadrennial. Why are they the best then? Well Totmianina/Marinin's winning scores at Europeans and Worlds for example were clearly below Shen/Zhou's from the GP final for starters. Secondly the most memorable performances I remember from Shen/Zhou, and having done many of them, I cannot remember Max and Tatiana coming close to.
2)Totmiana/Marinin-They deserve atleat this spot. As I mentioned they won the last two Worlds, are even have a 3-2 edge head to head, over Shen/Zhou, since the start of the 2002/2003 season.
3)Petrova/Tikhonov-They have been 3rd at 2 of the last 3 Worlds, and 2 of the last 3 GP finals, along with a silver this year when one of the big two withdrew.
They rarely challenge the big two, but they only occasionaly lose to somebody else.
4)Zhang/Zhang-They seem to have surpassed Pang/Tong.
5)Pang/Tong-They seem to be on the decline.
1)Irina Slutskaya-She has done atleast 2 competions this year, where none of the other top skaters have matched those performances in any of their events all year. Undefeated all year, incredable long program to win Worlds. No brainer, of course she is the best skater in the World now.
2)Sasha Cohen-Since she has beaten Kwan at the last 2 Worlds, and including Cheesefests, 4 of their last 8 meetings, excluding cheesefests, 2 of their last 4, I give her the nod now.
3)Michelle Kwan-Read above.
4)Shizuka Arakawa-Maybe this is generous, but she did win a World title only 14 months ago, and she was 2nd at the GP final with only Cohen and Kwan out of the circuit. She also is one of the more complete skaters when she skates well, even if she is not on her game right now.
5)Carolina Kostner-The World bronze medalist deserves a spot and I am not sure who else I would put.
1)Navka/Kostomarov-I dont think they are the best anymore, but the judges do, and they have only 1 loss in 2 seasons. Of course they are #1.
2)Belbin/Agosto-Only lost to Navka/Kostomarov this year. So of course they are #2.
3)Delobel/Schoenfelder-They were so obviously robbed at their last two events I cant not put them in the top 3. Their free performances at the Europeans and Worlds were the highlight performances of the year IMO.
4)Denkova/Stayvinski-I want to put them higher, but they are going through a difficult period right now. They are the only team, other than Navka/Kostomarov with 2 World medals right now, and they have medaled at every GP final or Europeans they have finished since the 2002/2003 season. However they seem to be sliding fast.
5)Grushina/Goncharov-They were 3rd at Worlds, as for why they are not higher, read the two teams above.
1)Plushenko-Nobody has touched his top scores this year.
2)Lambiel-His long program in qualifying was the highest long program score, minus Plushenko, this year. His short program score was the highest of anybody but Plushenko this year; his combined short/final long program score was the highest of anybody this year; and he is the new World Champion.
3)Joubert-He had such a horrable Worlds it is hard to rate him any higher; but he has so many top accomplishments in international competition, like his 2 European silvers and World silver last year, it is hard to rate him any lower.
4)Buttle-He did come 2nd at the two biggest events of the year, albeit not having to face both of the Worlds best skaters(Plushenko missed one, Lambiel the other)in either event.
5)Weir-Took advantage of alot of absences at his GP events to have a very good GP season.
Matt Savoie~Soul Skater
According to their abilitie's.....
- *Irina Slutskaya
- *Stephane Lambiel
- *Shen & Zhou
*Totmianina & Marinin
*Pang & Tong
*Zhang & Zhang
- *Belbin & Agosto, Denkova & Staviyski, Navka & Kostamarov
are all equal in abilities IMO, but B&A are more enjoyable of the three, also IMO.
*Grushina & Goncharov---Chait & Sakhnovsky, I'm not sure which are better
Ladies: 1. Michelle 2. Shizuka 3. Fumie 4.From here are, for me the rest look the same in their skating.
Men: 1. Lambiel 2. Evan 3. Plushenko 4. Goebel 5. Joubert
Dance--Don't care for it so I really have no clue
Pairs: Shen & Zhao (sp) don't care for any of the others.
Just for fun, I put how I think they'll place in Torino next year in (). . . . . . . . . also, I'm assuming (hoping!) that B/A will go . . . . . . . . .
5. Pang/Tong(6) or Obertas/Slavnov(5)
Here is my list (regardless of how they will finish in Torino or how they finished at worlds in 2005):
1.Plushenko (if healthy, he is tough to beat)
2.Joubert (he is capable of much more than what we saw at worlds)
3.Lambiel (a very complete skater, but I am not sure he can consistently perform at a high level)
4.Weir (my second most favorite, after Plushenko, but he will need a quad to move up on my list)
5.Buttle (he too needs a quad, but he is an amazing interpreter of music)
1.Irina Slutskaya- It is hard to get out of my mind her amazing LP performance in Moscow
2.Michelle Kwan- She is the one I would put my money on, to skate well (OK, I would have lost my money at the recent worlds)
3.Sasha Cohen- She is just coming into her own; she has discovered how to deliver a complete program and not fall apart half way
4.Shizuka Arakawa- She still has the goods; she just needs to rediscover the confidence that made her world champ just over a year ago.
5.Fumie Suguri-I chose her above Kostner or Ando for her maturity and completeness as a skater
1Shen & Zhao (this was a tough one because argument can be made for T&M but I wanted to avoid ties)
2.T&M (I placed them second only because I don't know if they really are better than a healthy S&Z who skate with more emotion and better connection, but T&M have great basics and extensions). This should have really been a tie for 1st place.
3.Petrova-Tikhonov (most definitely the most improved pair. They challenged themselves to up the difficulty of their elements while maintaining the classical look, which pushes them ahead of the two high flying Chinese pairs, IMO).
4.Pang & Tong (clearly the better developed pair of the other two Chinese pairs)
5.Zhang & Zhang (they still don't look very good as a pair, outside of their athletic ability).
1.Navka & Kostomarov: They are still the best, IMO. Nobody has their speed and lines.
2.Belbin-Agosto: They have the potential to dethrone the champs. They are exciting to watch.
3.Denkova-Staviyski: They have the talent, but they may need better choreography and better lines.
4.Delobel-Schoenfelder: Another favorite of mine. They have unique choreography, and very interesting programs.
5.Grushina-Goncharov: They have been around so long, one has to wonder why they are not higher. They need more speed, IMO.
That's all folks.
Arm Chair Skate Fan
A healthy Shen and Zhao, in my opinion, will be tough to beat. Same goes for Plushenko. They command the ice with their presence. As the for ladies, anyone healthy can beat the others on any given day, but watch out for Michelle. When she's in her "zone", she can only defeat herself...........42