I saw it for the 3rd time yesterday- this time on a bigger screen and it was magnificent. I noticed several details that I had missed the first two times. I went out and bought a DVD set of the first trilogy. Now I am trying to decide whether to wait for the second trilogy to come out as a set or just buy the DVD's individually.
I just could not wait for the DVD to come out so I went out and got the book! hehehe It used to be on sale for twenty-something dollars, not any more. But I got it any way. The book always(I hope) have a little more detail than the movie. I already own all the movies except of course ROTS.
I too bought the book, and yes, it gives a lot more detail. The one I found to be particularly interesting was that Yoda said at the end that the Jedi had been wrong in not moving with the times and not updating their skills, and that had at least partially caused the disaster (or something to that effect). Also Padme' wanted to say 'sorry' to Anakin in the book- in the movie it was not so clear. Of course movies can only tell us a limited amount.
Is this a Kwan reference?Originally Posted by Vash01
Jedi Kwan- LOL!
oh dear.....
I am just loving the book. It is much better than the movie.
I would call myself as casual, mildly interested Star Wars fan. So I saw the movie for the first time this past Saturday. And I found it mildly interesting. But one question: I didn't understand what Yoda meant when he told Obiwan that he was going to put him in touch with Quigon (spelling?) - the Liam Neeson character. Can someone explain that part to me?
The one laugh out loud moment I admittedly had was when Yoda came into the Emperor's chamber and made short work of the two red-garbed guards.
By the way, AFI is going to honor George Lucas with a lifetime achievement award. It's bound to be telecast on TNT or one of the other cable stations. I usually enjoy the AFI telecasts.
Good question, Sandee.........There is no reference to Quigon in Episode IV, so I am clueless.........Vash.........any ideas? 42I would call myself as casual, mildly interested Star Wars fan. So I saw the movie for the first time this past Saturday. And I found it mildly interesting. But one question: I didn't understand what Yoda meant when he told Obiwan that he was going to put him in touch with Quigon (spelling?) - the Liam Neeson character. Can someone explain that part to me?
The one laugh out loud moment I admittedly had was when Yoda came into the Emperor's chamber and made short work of the two red-garbed guards.
By the way, AFI is going to honor George Lucas with a lifetime achievement award. It's bound to be telecast on TNT or one of the other cable stations. I usually enjoy the AFI telecasts.
I believe what Yoda meant was that he had learned how to get in touch with the late Qui Gon Jin and learned from him how to get into that certain 'state' instead of going into 'death'. He encouraged Obiwan to learn it too. There is no reference to QGJ in episode 4, but remember that Obi Wan had this mild smile on his face when he finally fell during his fight with Darth Vader. It seems he had learned that technique by that time and he chose that path.
That is just my interpretation.
The book alludes to this conversation between Yoda and Obiwan. I will need to read that part again.
Vash
This is my interpretation of that question:
Yoda meant simply communicating with the "dead". Qui Gon Jin past away but his spirit and life force has become "one" with the "force" and someone who knows completely that way of the" force" could talk to people who have reached that state( for the lack of a better word...) Remember all this star wars Jargin is filled with eastern religious references. And also remember Luke's conversions with a deceased Obi Wan in The Empire Strikes Back & Return Of The Jedi?
In other words Vash01 is right.
OK, that makes sense. I guess I never realized that it wasn't perfectly normal for Obiwan to appear as a spirit to Luke. I just assumed it was something all Jedi did naturally.
At the end of ROTJ....(the remix), the actor we briefly saw as Annakin aka Darth Vadar was replaced with Hayden Christensen (this is the scene where the spirits of the Jedi are reunited as Luke smiles and looks on)...........I would have liked to have seen Qui Gon Jin there as well........to complete the circle so to speak........42
ITA Show. Just before these spirits appear in the new version, there are fireworks and celebration on Coruscant- something that was not in the original ROTJ. Then we see Hayden Christensen instead of Sebastian Shaw, with Yoda and Obiwan (Alec Guiness). I would have definitely liked to see Qui Gon Jin, who found Anakin as a child with strong force. It would have- as Show42 put it- completed the circle.
Some people are quite upset about the changes to the original trilogy. However, eventually we will see all 6 in a row, as one long story, and the changes will only reinforce that.
Vash
I am going to get a kick in the pants for this but..... Ever since I first saw ROTJ during puberty( a loooooong time ago...) the only thing I truely dislike about all 3 movie, and now 6 I guess, is the whole reformed mass murderer thing. It just does not do it for me.Please don't kick me to hard.... I am extremely delicate.... hehehehe
Is there one single thing that you all dislike about the movies the most?
Bar none for me is Anakin's reason for giving over complete obedience to the Emperor. I can marginally accept that his love with Padme was strong enough to cause conflicting loyalty to the Jedi dogma. But what rang 110% false to me were the moments after he kills Sam Jackson's character. He has about 1 micro second of "OMG what did I do?" to immediately dropping to his knee to swear loyalty to his master. The justification for that level of loyalty that then led him to kill the Jedi kids was weak, weak, weak. I really wanted to see sound reasoning for Anakin's misguided choice. I wanted to walk away understanding how it was possible that he could be misled. The whole thinking process behind the idea that ALL Jedi must be enemies of the Republic was. I didn't just truly dislike the weakness of this plot point, I hated it.
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