- Joined
- Jul 11, 2003
I didn't realize you were critiquing the entire jump. I thought we were just discussing speed. Of course, arms play a big roll in air turns.as do the closesness of he thighs while in the air Entire body position is important in any element of skating as it does in other sports..
Men do not do the tumbling to music in gymnastics (of course divers do not either). Gymnasts while doing that do keep a kind of 'metronome' beat throughout, or should. Timing is important in any 'trick' or series of 'tricks' to facilitate the 'trick' .
Figure Skating deals with music which includes rythym for it's programs. Boitano and Liachenko are prime examples of disregarding music to gain speed and take long entries into toepick jumps. Most skaters do take somewhat long entries into toepick jumps also. Speed makes the jump easy, unfortunately many skaters think if they do not do the jump correctly they will fall and at high speed that's going to hurt.
Gaining speed in figure skating relies heavily on crossovers both forward and backwards. Hence, the choreography of a program is limited, and the addition of a long entry into a jump makes the element more of a 'trick' than a move to the music.
All this is because the skate itself contains a blade which limits the skater's options, whereas in ballet or any dance form, the foot is free to do whatever.
I can appreciate the jumps of Boitano and Liashenko as a sport and the long entries together with the speed is the technique of a SPORT. I can not accept the interruption of the flow and choreography which limits the ARTISTRY. So I go to the ballet a lot to get that nourishment which I see little of in figure skating.
I do like the sport of figure skating and always enjoy a good quad.
Joe.
Men do not do the tumbling to music in gymnastics (of course divers do not either). Gymnasts while doing that do keep a kind of 'metronome' beat throughout, or should. Timing is important in any 'trick' or series of 'tricks' to facilitate the 'trick' .
Figure Skating deals with music which includes rythym for it's programs. Boitano and Liachenko are prime examples of disregarding music to gain speed and take long entries into toepick jumps. Most skaters do take somewhat long entries into toepick jumps also. Speed makes the jump easy, unfortunately many skaters think if they do not do the jump correctly they will fall and at high speed that's going to hurt.
Gaining speed in figure skating relies heavily on crossovers both forward and backwards. Hence, the choreography of a program is limited, and the addition of a long entry into a jump makes the element more of a 'trick' than a move to the music.
All this is because the skate itself contains a blade which limits the skater's options, whereas in ballet or any dance form, the foot is free to do whatever.
I can appreciate the jumps of Boitano and Liashenko as a sport and the long entries together with the speed is the technique of a SPORT. I can not accept the interruption of the flow and choreography which limits the ARTISTRY. So I go to the ballet a lot to get that nourishment which I see little of in figure skating.
I do like the sport of figure skating and always enjoy a good quad.
Joe.