I love M/D program. To me it is their signature piece. I think it suits Johnny very well.
I love M/D program. To me it is their signature piece. I think it suits Johnny very well.
I think that to try to make any statements at the Olympics is not what matters or important at all. What matters is, that a skater has a music and choreography she/he really can relate to and feel comfortable with under a very, very stressful situation. I have no doubts at all that Tarasova will create fantastic programmes for a skater with Weir´s huge interpretative talent. In Weir she has the best possible material for her own talents to be able to be put in full use, really shine in full. Weir, Tarasova and these music choices are the best possible combination, in my opinion.Originally Posted by Joesitz
I´d imagine that for judges it does not matter at all, what the music choices are. The main thing is that a skater has the technical skills combined with interpretation talents and skates to programmes with really suitable choreography. Today the latter means a COP friendly choreography. Weir and Tarasova combined will be able to create and show something that will look fantastic for the judges and audiences.
Weir is my VERY big favourite among current skaters, and if he gets a reliable quad for the Olympics...
Last edited by Jaana; 06-18-2005 at 04:37 AM.
What a coincidence. IIRC Natalia Mishkutienok and Artur Dmitriev used the same pieces of music for their SP and LP at the 1991 World Championships in Munich. It will be very interesting to see what Tatiana Tarasova's choreography will be like, and how Johnny interprets both pieces of music.
It will be interesting to compare...that was one of my favorite LP's for pairs...just a question though...didn't they use it for LP 92 Olympics? I don't remember 91 Worlds so I could just be confused at the moment. Would anyone have a copy of M/D's Libestraum, or other skaters who have used it for comparison?
Also, is this the swan that Oksana B used for her olympics exhibition?
Emma - M&D actually used it for both 91 Worlds and the 92 Olympics. Their costumes were almost identical, but different colors (one was a light silvery grey, while the other was a lavendery purple).
And yes, Oksana Baiul used The Swan for her 94 OLY exhibition.
Yes, and as mentioned earlier here, Ilia Kulik used "Liebestraum" as 1996-1997 season´s exhibition number. It will be really interesting to compare it to Weir´s performance.
Yes, M/D used Liebestraum for the 92 Olympics and later at the 92 Worlds in Oakland, California.
Ah, my bad. I thought that was a bit odd coming from you
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While I am not crazy about the old warhorses, I think most skaters feel safer with them then branching off into Cage's stuff like Buttle did. So Malaguenas, Carmens, Don Qs, etc. are going to be around whether I like it or not. So I just watch the skater and see if he/she can bring something to it that I don't expect.
Johnny, may just do that with Lieberstraum But the music is going to remain corny to me.
Joe
Well, the new pictures posted on the Johnny Weir Message Board site look great. He looks healthy and happy. Several shots of him working with TT. It seems to be going well. I can't wait.
Joe, you may be right there. I would have to base my judgement on the cut and the arrangement. If it's the "lilting piano" version, I think you may be right. If he goes with a more orchestral balance it could be interesting. When I think of overused pieces of music, I tend to see how they are presented. In otherword, not all Carmens are created equally.Johnny, may just do that with Lieberstraum But the music is going to remain corny to me.
For instance, I thought Plushy's Version of Carman was great, that is to say the orchestration he used. On the other hand Sasha's Carmen music sounded just like every other one I usually heard. That's not to say that she didn't skate well, she came in 4th at her first Olympics, which is still darned impressive. Just the cuts of the same music were so differnt.
Same thing with Kwan Vs. **** music of Tosca. I really don't like to compare Irina to Michelle because they are both great skaters in their own right, however comparisons of them seem like apples vs oranges. Just keeping in mind the music, I personally prefer Michelle's Tosca music to the cut Irina skated to.
I think if he and TT get together and have interesting performances of these pieces of music, they very well may be "classics." Liebestraum is truely a chestnut if there ever was one, however it didn't get to be well known because it wasn't catchy!I think there's the possibility of this being a great choice of a lyrical piece for a lyrical skater. As for The Swan, it's a little less overdone, but still in the mainstream and suits his style, IMHO.
I'm with you, Joe. I can barely wait for the GP to begin. I think the GP series is always more interesting the year leading to, and the year after the Olympics.
I also remember in M/D Liebestraum he portrayed an artist and she was his muse. They also used this program for Skates of Gold 93 aired in 94.
I don't have Plushenko's Carmen on tape. Did he use the Shchedrin's version, the onewritten for his wife, the great Bolshoi ballerina Maya Plitsetskaya?
I'm not a huge fan of overly mellow music for programs either, but I will say that Johnny has the interpretive ability to keep me interested despite frequently using music that would serve well as a sleep aid. (And by that I do not mean necessarily boring, these are both nice pieces of music, but to my rather hyperactive mind, they come off as rather la-la-la-mellow-mellow-mellow-ZZZZZ).
It would be nice to see him branch out and do something a little more "funked up", though.
What I am actually dying to know is -- what's he gonna WEAR?? Why am I picturing, for the short, some variation of Ann Patrice McDonough's "Swan Lake" costume from a couple of seasons ago? Or him covered almost completely in silver sequins and white feathers like something from Muppet Show: Arctic Circle Edition??
As to Bauil's The Swan -- I always thought was from Swan Lake, and not the Saint-Saens piece. Was I incorrect?
Unfortunately, I never saw the Plitsetskaya Carmen. It was choreographed for her by Alonso's husband. When Alonso was permitted to enter the US again in the seventies, she did perform it and it was quite an interesting version of Carmen.
Joe
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