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    A. Y. & E. P.: Tzars Of The Ice, Lords Of The Rink anya_angie's Avatar
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    Question about music with vocals in new system

    I was talking with a coach, I sent her The Hunchback of Notre Dame's Sanctuary and "And He Shall Smite The Wicked" and she said that it would not be allowed in singles competition because of the Latin chanting vocals. I wanted to know if that is true?

    [url]http://filmtracks.com/titles/hunchback.html[/url]

    Track 11, Sanctuary, is the only one that I can get samples of there. I'd appreciate thoughts on this because it is impossible to find a nonvocal version of this score.

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    My USFSA rulebook (which is the 2004 one) says for singles skating "When vocal music with lyrics has been chosen, a deduction of 0.1 must be made in the presentation mark." I don't know how that translates to the new system, but I guess it depends on if the chanting is considered lyrics. If there are words, it's probably not legal. I'm hardly an expert, though. I'd just pick music without vocal anything.

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    Ah ok, thanks. I was wondering why no one has used Carmina Burana as of late! LOL!

    Here are the "lyrics" to Sanctuary...

    Judex crederis esse venturus
    In te, Domine, speravi
    Non confundar in aeternum
    Salvum fac populum tuum
    Judex crederis
    Libera me Domine
    Libera me Domine de morte aeterna
    In die illa tremenda
    Quando caeli movendi sunt
    Caeli et terra
    Dum veneris judicare
    O, salutaris hostia
    Quae caeli pandis ostium
    Bella premunt hostilia
    Da robur, fer auxilium
    Sit sempiterna gloria
    Sit sempiterna gloria
    Sit sempiterna gloria
    Gloria, gloria semper
    Sanctus, sanctus in excelsis
    Mors stupebit et natura
    Cum resurget creatura
    Judicanti responsurra
    Judex ergo cum sedebit
    Nil inultum remanebit
    Quem patronum rogaturus
    Cum vix justus sit securus?
    Juste Judex ultionis
    Ante diem rationis
    Kyrie Eleison

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    If you really want to skate to it, you can use vocal music in ISI competitions, and in an artistic program in USFSA, just not in a singles freestyle program.

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    Ok, thanks very much.

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    I thought at some point Todd Eldredge had argued the point for "Carmina Burana" because Latin is a "Dead" language, and therefore the vocals are merely instrumentation? Not sure....

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