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    I'm not surprised at Emile. She is a very motivated skater.

    Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the Groups like is Group A a better group than Group C?

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by orchid
    Skating Note of Interest... (Credit: Blazing Blades)


    Last night at the Liberty figure skating competiton in Philadelphia, PA, in Ladies Group A, Emily Hughes blew everyone away with speed, power, accuracy. Also credit her with a new move; an incredible Charlotte that was deep on an inside edge as she deliberately touched the ice, and then somehow went into a gorgeous layback from that entrance! The whole audience gasped.
    wow...that sounds really awesome!

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    Where are the Senior results for this? Still not on Liberty's website.

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    Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the Groups like is Group A a better group than Group C?
    Joe, groups are separated by the referee before the competition. They are usually by age but sometimes (especially at big competitions like Liberty) random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz
    Can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the Groups like is Group A a better group than Group C?
    No, it's a random draw, or maybe the nationally ranked skaters are seeded as at regionals. They just have to split the groups when they get too big -- at regionals the maximum is 18 per group, and Liberty seems to have been sticking pretty close to that.

    The only difference was, the last two intermediate ladies short program groups (H and I, I think) were for juvenile-level skaters who had not passed the intermediate test but who wanted to skate up for the experience of competing a short program.

    Some club competitions divide the lower levels by age. Juvenile vs. Open Juvenile does this officially already.

    And at other club competitions I've also seen preliminary divided into two levels, with and without doubles allowed, and pre-preliminary with and without axels. So yeah, in that situation the skaters in one preliminary event would generally be better than those in the other. Although there might be enough entries in each of those events that they need to divide them into more than one competition at each level as well, with or without final rounds.

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    At regionals the maximum per group is 20 as reflected by rule 3325. One doesn't have to be nationally ranked to be seeded at regionals. A skater (intermediate-senior) can be seeded by a placement in the event of the same class (final round only) from regional through national championships. They say they don't seed juveniles at regionals but they really do.

    As for Liberty, I don't keep stats on skaters, but it looks like skaters were seeded into groups. Any skaters who did not make final round at last regional comp would be random draw. Most reasonably sized comps have a referee who will seed.

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    Ah well most of the competitions I've been involved with were smaller and were grouped by age. I bet Liberty's different though because it's so big.

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    Does anyone who won and finished 1-10 in the Junior Men's final free skate? They have not changed the results website since 7/15, and the results are still not up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORISPULASKI
    Does anyone who won and finished 1-10 in the Junior Men's final free skate? They have not changed the results website since 7/15, and the results are still not up.
    Doris - Nice to be reading you again.

    It's been 3 days after the competition and still no results posted! There were some excellent skaters in these competitions, many of whom you will see at the Nats. I'd like to know how well they did. Can anyone who saw these competitions, give a report?

    Joe

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    Senior Men SP (New Judging System) results:
    1. Scott Smith 66.92
    2. Rohene Ward 66.69
    3. Parker Pennington 62.03
    4. Jordan Brauninger 60.47
    5. Igor Matsipura 57.02
    6. Tommy Steenberg 56.23
    7. Ken Rose 45.38
    8. Ryan Janke 43.69
    9. Derrick Delmore 43.41
    10. Keegan Murphy 41.16
    11. Craig Ratterree 40.35
    12. Michael Solonoski 33.78
    13. Wesley Campbell 32.34
    14. Joel Watson 22.76

    Senior Men's FS (NJS):
    1. Scott Smith 136.80
    2. Parker Pennington 117.90
    3. Rohene Ward 116.44
    4. Derrick Delmore 109.48
    5. Jordan Brauninger 109.38
    6. Ryan Jahnke 108.90
    7. Ken Rose 105.08
    8. Tommy Steenberg 100.62
    9. Keegan Murphy 87.02
    10. Igor Matispura 85.86
    11. Michael Solonoski 78.42
    12. Craig Ratterree 71.22
    13. Joel Watson 48.36

    Senior Ladies were judged as 2 separate groups/events by 2 different judging panels.

    Senior Ladies SP Group A:
    1. Emily Hughes 56.65
    2. Rachael Flatt 47.21 (skated up, SP only)
    3. Jane Bugaeva 40.73
    4. Katherine Hadford 36.29
    5. Monica Laverdiere 34.32
    6. Stephanie Rosenthal 29.09
    7. Kristin Tudisco 26.20
    8. Victoria Connelly 23.27
    9. Linday Walczak 23.09
    10. Haley Ellis 22.39
    11. Jenny Steckhan 20.37
    12. Danielle Schraner 20.04
    13. Victoria Greco 16.74
    14. Lauren Kowbel 16.39

    Senior Ladies SP Group B:
    1. Megan Oster 52.24
    2. Angie Lien 41.30
    3. Christine Zukowski 39.18
    4. Ambar Kaiser 37.44
    5. Megan Williams-Stewart 37.40
    6. Katy Taylor 35.90
    7. Krissa Miller 34.20
    8. Michelle Boulos 30.44
    9. Stephanie Roth 29.26
    10. Chloe Katz 28.82
    11. Laura Wetzel 28.10
    12. Leah Agler 27.62
    13. Jazmyn Manzouri 26.10
    14. Britt Adams 24.12
    15. Katrina Borncamp 22.12
    16. Jamie Troutman 20.44
    17. Alexandra Nozier 14.56

    SR LADIES FS A
    1. Hughes 85.21, 2. Bugaeva 75.82, 3. Hadford 64.92, 4. Tudisco 63.63, 5. Laverdiere 59.78, 6. Rosenthal 57.77, 7. Walczak 51.67, 8. Conolly 49.57, 9. Steckhan 43.61, 10. Schraner 37.58, 11. Greco 37.32, 12. Kowbel 34.42; WD--H. Ellis, Sasanelli.

    SR LADIES FS B
    1. Zukowski 94.02, 2. Oster 76.68 3. Taylor 75.08, 4. Williams-Stewart 72.06, 5. Kaiser 68.08, 6. Roth 63.16, 7. Katz 58.24, 8. Adams 56.46, 9. Miller 53.84, 10. Agler 51.08, 11. Lien 50.40, 12. Wetzel 48.22, 13. Borncamp 41.74, 14. Boulos 36.80, 15. Piepenberg 30.70, 16. Nozier 24.94; WD--G. Howard, Troutman.

    SENIOR PAIRS SP:
    1. Evora/Ladwig 50
    2. Scott/Fein (did not skate FS) 47
    3. Putnam/Wirtz (did not skate FS) 45
    4. Vise/Trent 44
    5. Jordan/Barrett 43
    6. Beriau/Gazzola (did not skate FS) 37

    SENIOR PAIRS FS:
    1. Jordan/Barrett 82
    2. Evora/Ladwig 79
    3. Vise/Trent 77

    Reports & links to Liberty 2005 results/info:

    Jr Men Final (FS -- includes results) and Senior Men SP & FS:
    http://www.frogsonice.com/skateweb/r...-liberty.shtml

    Top 3 Senior ladies FS in Groups A & B:
    http://asianathlete.com/DaScoopsForm...y.aspx?ID=2567

    Senior Men FS:
    http://asianathlete.com/DaScoopsForm...y.aspx?ID=2568

    See FSU for more results/reports/comments (starting on page 3):
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...0&page=3&pp=15

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    An eye-catching debute for Rachel Flatt! Can you tell us something more about her, Silvia? Is this a new one to watch?

    Disappointing results for Jahnke.

    Mathman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman
    Disappointing results for Jahnke. Mathman
    and surprises for Parker Pennington!

    I assume we add these SP and FS scores together to get the final score.

    Smith's points total is quite high. He may be ready for Nats. that competition does not have anyone as a definite.

    Zukowski and Oster were the bright lights of a very dull Jr Ladies last Nats.
    What happened to Katy's SP. She apparently made up for it in the FS.

    Total points for Hughes 141.86; for Taylor: 133.20. If Katy had a better SP could she have beaten Hughes?

    Gee, I would have liked to have seen all this. It is early in the season so one can't come to any firm firm conclusions.

    Joe

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    Katy fell on nearly everything in the SP, but did a good job in the LP.

    Joe, you've got to go to one of these. The admission is FREE. You walk right in and sit down with the coaches and skaters. It's like going to competitions 20 years ago. The biggest annoyance is that they don't announce the scores.

    Just the fact that Rohene Ward was there made it worth going. Parker Pennington skated very solidly but uninspiringly. And he wins the Rusty Coat Hanger for his SP costume. It had a buttoned up cardigan over a red tie, and he looked like Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.

    Also the arena food was pretty good and reasonably priced. We took some small videos and they are posted in the following thread.

    Liberty Open Skating Videos

    Also note that Comcast will be airing about 90 minutes of coverage on the 24th and rebroadcasting on the 30th.
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 07-20-2005 at 02:04 PM.

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    Thanks Doris. I'm trying to download those links.

    I would have gone to this one but I had ballet tickets for that weekend. Next time, definitely. I'm awaiting news of Mid Atlantic competitions. Any news?

    Joe

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    Joe, If they come up saying blocked or expired, I will upload them again for you.

    Otherwise, you click on the link. Possibly after advertising popups, you might get a blank screen once in a while. If so, close the window, and click on the link again. It will come up with the info. When you see click on Download, do so. If it says, click here if download doesn't start, click there immediately. It will ask if you want to save the clip. Click save and select a folder to save to that you can find again. My Documents is a good choice.

    To play the clip, right click on it and select Windows Media Player from the list.
    Quicktime will also work. Real Player will work, but you have to resize the window, which is a pain. Media Player Classic (which is a free download) works too (again, right click to zoom the size larger).

    It's a great site. They have lots of very high quality clips of my old favorites Janet Lynn, Toller Cranston, and John Curry. In fact I had no idea all this stuff still existed in such high quality.

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