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    Phantom of the Opera

    Hi all!

    Does anyone know if any elite skaters have skated to Phantom of the Opera? Thanks.

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    I think Ina & Zimmerman did a routine to it.

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    Brian Boitano has a routine to Music of the Night that he has done quite a few times over the years. He did it in the Salute to Movie Music special last year, with Frank D'Ambrosia (who sang the Phantom on stage) singing live.

    http://www.skatetoday.com/articles04...a/dsc_1369.jpg

    I think this is a standard, almost a warhorse, LOL, that has been used by many skaters at all levels. I did a search on the Skate Music site

    http://www.skatemusiclist.com/index.html

    and came up with a whole page of references (Urbanski and Marvel, Alexei Urmanov, Shepard Clark, Zaretski and Zaretski, many, many more).

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    Pang and Tong's SP music from this past year was from the musical.

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    Dorothy Hamill, Robin Cousins, Kavarikova & Novotny... The list goes on & on. Boitano's version of Music of the Night is the ultimate, imho.

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    Thanks!

    I was advised that as an adult skater I should probably steer away from music that National level judges would associate with elite skaters. I would hazard to guess Phantom falls into this category!

    Back to the drawing board.....

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    sk8er1964 if you skated a different piece than is most popular for elite skaters that could be ok, or even a different cut

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    What about Urmanov? I know he did one in Pro Competition and it was quite good. That guy should have gone into dance. He would be a star now at the Maryinsky.

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    I really loved Brian Boitano's Music of the Night. When he skated that program I actually got chills watching him. I would love to see Michelle skate to it. If not a competitive program then at least an exhibition but MK seems to enjoy using more popular current music for her exhibitions.

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    I recall a lovely, professional routine performed by Watson & Oppegard to music from "Phantom". The other 2 routines that stand out in my mind were Boitano's & Dorothy Hamill's.

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    I'm not a Boitano fan so I'm not exactly going for praising him except for his ability to win medals. He deserves them.

    As an artist though, I see him as very limited. At his best, imo, he uses schmaltzy music from opera and broadway and I can't tell whether there is a difference in his emotions. Certainly his facial expressions are always the same.
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    Joe, I guess you didn't see Brian performing Wild Elephants. It was very different for him and you could tell he was having fun. I've always enjoyed Boitano's skating because of the clean lines and power (IMO). Another favorite program is Carousel Waltz.

    Some of Boitano's more recent programs have been contrived lately, but a lot of skaters seem to go this route as they get older. Between not having the same technical abilities and trying to come up with something different, you get either 'tried and true' or 'too gimmicky'. I think it's tougher for the guys to be more creative in the longer term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz
    I'm not a Boitano fan so I'm not exactly going for praising him except for his ability to win medals. He deserves them.

    As an artist though, I see him as very limited. At his best, imo, he uses schmaltzy music from opera and broadway and I can't tell whether there is a difference in his emotions. Certainly his facial expressions are always the same.
    JMO

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    And his artistry sucks, and he only skates to opera, and all his does is jump, and he telegraphs his Lutz jump, and he can't really dance, and he has cheesy shows with the same cheesy skaters, and he's a 41-year-old bachelor living in San Francisco and we all know what that means, and he isn't college educated and Orser should've beaten him in Calgary because his artistic skills were far superior...

    Ladies & Gentlemen, I present to you: The many failings of Brian Boitano. :sheesh:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladybug
    I really loved Brian Boitano's Music of the Night. When he skated that program I actually got chills watching him. I would love to see Michelle skate to it. If not a competitive program then at least an exhibition but MK seems to enjoy using more popular current music for her exhibitions.

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    I was lucky enough to be in the audience when Brian brought back "Music of the Night" and skated to it with Franc D'Ambrosio singing live at the Tribute to the Movies show. It gave me chills, too. What a magic performance! It wasn't anywhere near as good on TV as it was in person -- all the camera cuts to the singer and (heaven help us) movie clips were really disruptive, but it was still great to see he could do this "signature" so well so many years after he first performed it.

    I've so enjoyed following Brian's career, for one thing because he hasn't been satisfied to just do "Music of the Night" over and over again (to different musical backgrounds). While big, sweeping pieces are certainly his forte and those are among my favorite programs of his, I've also enjoyed things like "Big Man on Mulberry Street," "Just Kiss Me," "Wild Elephants" (what a surpise THAT one was to the entire audience at Ice Wars when he debuted it), "Blue," "Since I Fell For You" (a four-minute-plus program that had no jumps -- well, four split jumps, but no rotational jumps -- when he did it as an encore in the 1989 Tour of Champions), "Our Hero" and, most recently, the wonderfully clever (IMO) "He Just Wants to Cha-Cha." He's tried some things that didn't work particularly well — "Rapper's Delight" comes to mind -- but he hasn't been afraid to try, and most of what he does I find creative and enjoyable to watch. And I appreciate that he's experimented with different choreographers and styles, going to experts in the field -- all of whom have seemed to find him sufficiently creative and "artistic" to enjoy working with him and be happy with what they created together.

    I look forward to (hopefully) many more years of "chills" and thrills from Mr. Boitano.

    However, I would say that anyone who wanted to try "Music of the Night" should go ahead and do it. I don't tend to think any piece of music "belongs" to anyone. I may think of Brian B. when I hear "Music of the Night," but I'm just one. A lot of folks don't even know he did a program to that. Just like Bolero -- a lot of people have never heard of T&D's program to Bolero. While I didn't think it worked for Michelle Kwan last year, I had no problem with her using it if she wanted to do it.

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    I'm not a Boitano fan so I'm not exactly going for praising him except for his ability to win medals. He deserves them.

    As an artist though, I see him as very limited. At his best, imo, he uses schmaltzy music from opera and broadway and I can't tell whether there is a difference in his emotions. Certainly his facial expressions are always the same.
    JMO
    Joe, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel

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