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Joesitz said:Good advice for skaters and their strategy. It also is a good note for fans who believe if they see underrotated jumps it doesn't mean there will be consistent underrotated jumps in the future.
Thinking of Michael and his quad. If he rotates the 4 turns and lands it with a toe touch (which is likely), will his base score less the -GOE give him more points than if he left it out? Let's face it, points are what win these competitions, and a skater has to get points any which way he can.
Joe
Herein lies the stupidity of COP - if he fully rotates the quad (which is a big if) and touches the ice with the free skate then, assuming the jump was worthy of just base value, the free foot touch down would be -1 so the base value of the quad toe (9) minus one makes 8. So a flawed quad toe is worth more than a base value executed triple axel.
The problem is that 9 times out of ten if the jump is two footed it is likely that there will have been problems with other phases of the jump which might mean a -2 ...still even if its -2 its still worth the same as a base value triple lutz.
The total lunacy is if (and this is an even bigger if) a skater fully rotates a quad toe but falls , they get -3 GOE plus mandatory -1 for a fall, which makes the totally flawed quad toe worth 5...i.e. worth the same as +1 Triple toe or base value triple loop and worth more than a base value triple sal. To my find a fall should just be scored as 0 and the jump should only count to the total jumping passes.
Ant