Looks like you don't know reality. S/S doubled the SBS Salchow in the same competition as well. You conveniently forgot to include that, eh? With all of that problems, S/S still came out ahead on PCS.
I said S/S performed VERY WELL, I didn’t say either team was mistake free.
Their mistakes were taken off in GOE not PCS, I’m not sure you know where deductions go which is why you are confused. S/S were ahead in PCS by 1.17. They were dinged a little in PE (K/S 8.64 to S/S 8.43) but the criteria was still met in the other areas in spite of a 2S and no spin.
Stop making those excuses, other people also had equally severe injuries. And they were able to pull themselves together.
As if P/T were young bucks, completely injuries-free. Excuses and excuses.
Equally? If you are referring to 2012 there was no one injured in Jan or Feb, especially one that would require surgery, hospitalization for a week and being off until right before Worlds. A sore back, hamstring, foot or groin are NOT the same thing as having a surgeon digging about in your stomach. He not only had appendicitis but they also fixed diverticulitis on the intestines. Aliona was only one who injured her knee/thigh doing the 3ATh right before the competition on January 12th. She continued to train for Euros, then got re-injured in England and decided to WD, but she was fine later and even did the throw at Worlds.
V/T 1ST Euros
T/T 6TH 4CC
P/T 1ST Asian Winter Games
D/R 5TH 4CC
B/L 2ND Euros
D/C 2ND 4CC
S/H 1ST 4CC
B/B 3RD 4CC
B/H 4TH Euros
D/W 8th 4CC
Robin is just as old as Tong and Kavaguti will be 31 in a few weeks, so your age theory doesn’t hold water.
Are you out of your mind? V/T got together and immediately became W medalists. You are comparing K/S to some junior team who just got together for 3 years? They were both experienced skaters, yes?
B/L should quit, B probably will break her twiggy legs before they reach the world podium. What makes you think I don't?
Now B/L should quit!?!
K/S weren’t even close to level V/T were at when they paired up, K/S, experienced skaters? Please. Volosozhar was at worlds 7 times before getting with Trankov (Smirnov-zero) finishing as high at 4th place. 2010 was also her second Olympics. Trankov had been with Mukhortova for seven years; they won Jr. Worlds and finished as high as 4th in the world and he was also at the Olympics. Yet you compare a team with that background with a team whose background was either non-existent or really poor. I’m sure it was just that you didn’t know the history of the teams.
Why not compare K/S to B/L? Alexander Smirnov
WAS a junior before he paired up with Yuko in 2006 (B/L paired up in 2005.) I’m sure you didn’t realize that when you made the comment. Smirnov’s last partner was a former singles skater who’s very first partner was Smirnov. They only got as high as 6th at Jr. Worlds. Yuko and her first partner only got as high as 13th in the world, she took 12 months off and then with Devin Patrick got only as high as 15th at US Nationals. Smirnov’s first partner was another singles skaters who wanted to try pairs. They competed twice locally, then she move on. Two single skaters with no experience does not a highly trained Volosozhar make. Markuntsov and Patrick didn't exactly take Yuko to the Olympics or 4th place at worlds either.
Comparisons are only fair when they are equal. Yours was about as far from equal as you can get.
She stepped out on her 3T. It wasn't a clean program. Then she missed 20 sec during the transition from Valse Sentimentale to the Blue Danube.
That was the time they got fed support. That explained their outrageous high PCS. The point, unfortunately went over your head, is this the judges were ready to throw them a bone at the 2010 Olympics. They blew it. They will never get that kind of PCS again.
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I was talking about the Olympics and P/T and obviously you are talking about Euros because Kavaguti didn’t step out on the
3T at the Olympics and her shoulder didn’t dislocate until she fell on the
3LoTh and it still only took her seconds to pop it into place before the lift.
She also didn’t miss
20 seconds of that program in Euros either; maybe 5 seconds at most to pop her shoulder back in, then they went on to execute two perfect sets of 2A. Aliona stepped out of her triple flip and almost fell, double a triple and their sbs spins were off. None of those errors by either team would have a big impact on PCS.
Again, T/T are 22. K/S are 30. Not the same. Logic failed you big time.
Had T/T skated clean, K/S would never catch them. Girl T double footed her 3Sal throw.
Don't care what surgeries they had, other teams had equally bad injuries.
Look at the big events
Highest PCS around 2010 were 69.92, 67.27.
After that point, even with clean skate, they can only hope for 64. Get a reality check, hon.
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You have that backward, even if T/T had performed the same routine, everyone else performing better than they did, from 4th to 9th would have put T/T in about 7-9th place. They needed those errors, but I can see how your T/T love can cloud the scores of everyone else.
Where exactly have their PCS suffered where they have performed a great program and were “dumped?”
You didn’t give an answer to my question because one doesn’t exist.
Look at the big events
Highest PCS around 2010 were 69.92, 67.27.
So in other words, their two best events? Don’t even take into consideration how the PCS drop when they don’t perform well. Even S/S went from 57.28 to 70.72 but it requires someone to look at the whole PCS picture and understand what the numbers mean.
even with clean skate, they can only hope for 64. Get a reality check, hon.
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Even in the 2011 EC with a errors in the free the managed 68.60 and at the Cup of Russia last season they got 66.97 so that blows your whole theory on never getting above 64 when errors still get them higher.
I think you need to visit the ISU website to get re-educated on the rules of the sport and how/where deductions are applied. If that isn’t a help to you, visit you local rink and ask for help there. Then go learn about the skaters you watch so when there is a discussion about them you know their background well enough to have a well thought out discussion.