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We all know people are debating over "FS should come out of the closet". I really want some more realistic comments about the topic of same gender teams in pair skating and ice dancing for ACTUAL competition that can be sanctioned by ISU.
So what if in the near future, they allow same gender pair? And all types of bodies/shapes are welcomed. But there are some elements might be challenging for both side. Like how can you throw a man to do 3 twist? Have that ever happened before in ice shows?
I can see male/male pairs doing very good side by side jumps or even 3A throw and quad throw, but can they perform difficult twist? Like can you image someone like Evan Lysacek throws someone like Daisuke Takahashi on to the air for a triple twist? Can they actually do that because I'm afraid Dai is definitely over 54 kg thus making it more difficult to lift him up and throw him for 3 revolutions over a 6-feet man head? Nevertheless, I think male/male pair can do double twist.
The same for female/female pairs. I can see them with side by side jumps or even 3lz3T combination, and Biellmann or haircutter spins together and looking very good. But I couldn't image any lady throw another lady up in the air for even just a double twist, not to mention all those super difficult lifts in pairs!!!
With ice dance I can see it happening because the lifts in ice dance are not as dangerous and challenging as pairs. But again male/male definitely have huge advantage while female/female pair might struggle with lift.
Strong ladies can lift their male partners in some special occasions, like someone told me about Faiella/Scali, Hurtado/Diaz, Pechalat and Bourzat. But these ladies only lift their male partners once in a while. It's not like they do that in every competition they enter.
What do you think about this topic? If same gender teams in pairs and ice dance are allowed, what kind of major adjustment ISU should do with compulsory elements like throw, lift and twist?
So what if in the near future, they allow same gender pair? And all types of bodies/shapes are welcomed. But there are some elements might be challenging for both side. Like how can you throw a man to do 3 twist? Have that ever happened before in ice shows?
I can see male/male pairs doing very good side by side jumps or even 3A throw and quad throw, but can they perform difficult twist? Like can you image someone like Evan Lysacek throws someone like Daisuke Takahashi on to the air for a triple twist? Can they actually do that because I'm afraid Dai is definitely over 54 kg thus making it more difficult to lift him up and throw him for 3 revolutions over a 6-feet man head? Nevertheless, I think male/male pair can do double twist.
The same for female/female pairs. I can see them with side by side jumps or even 3lz3T combination, and Biellmann or haircutter spins together and looking very good. But I couldn't image any lady throw another lady up in the air for even just a double twist, not to mention all those super difficult lifts in pairs!!!
With ice dance I can see it happening because the lifts in ice dance are not as dangerous and challenging as pairs. But again male/male definitely have huge advantage while female/female pair might struggle with lift.
Strong ladies can lift their male partners in some special occasions, like someone told me about Faiella/Scali, Hurtado/Diaz, Pechalat and Bourzat. But these ladies only lift their male partners once in a while. It's not like they do that in every competition they enter.
What do you think about this topic? If same gender teams in pairs and ice dance are allowed, what kind of major adjustment ISU should do with compulsory elements like throw, lift and twist?
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