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Yes, I’m confused as well. Man, I wish we had protocols.Only 6 triples in FS, 3Lz REP, just one combo (3-2-2). Only one clean jump in SP.
How could she possibly earn over 200 with this jump content?
Yes, I’m confused as well. Man, I wish we had protocols.Only 6 triples in FS, 3Lz REP, just one combo (3-2-2). Only one clean jump in SP.
How could she possibly earn over 200 with this jump content?
Gracie deliberately singled her last 2 jumps- I assume we'll see her go for her entire content in the 2nd attempt. I think Mariah definitely got a little bit of a reputation bonus; not that she didn't skate well- she just only did one combo.Looking at Gracie’s score I was so confused because that program seemed like it could have been at least 100. What made Gracie 50 points worse than Mariah??
Because Mariah did 6 clean jumps, and Gracie did essentially one clean triple the 3lz 2T, she has a 3Fe, and an Ur 3Lo and the rest of the jumps were doubles.Looking at Gracie’s score I was so confused because that program seemed like it could have been at least 100. What made Gracie 50 points worse than Mariah??
I'm pretty sure this is why they don't make the protocols public. It's easier to leave it all cloudy. They can forgive or ignore URs, and puff up the GOEs and components to make the math add up.Yes, I’m confused as well. Man, I wish we had protocols.
Honestly, no one in this competition was better technically. Was she overscored, yes. It is a national competition. Just look at the insane scores that Russia is giving their top skaters. All countries do it (except Japan)... but was she overscored in comparison to the other ladies, no。 She landed far more clean triples than anyone else in the competition. It is the early in the season and people have been on breaks from skating. No one is at their best. It isn't some grand conspiracy..I'm pretty sure this is why they don't make the protocols public. It's easier to leave it all cloudy. They can forgive or ignore URs, and puff up the GOEs and components to make the math add up.
Mariah is a beautiful and engaging skater, but with such low tech content she can't compete with Russian, Japanese or Korean skaters. From a PR standpoint, USFSA has to prop her scores up if they want her to look like she's even in the ballpark internationally.
I think this strategy of rewarding low tech content is a problem with USFS in terms of developing more tech-proficient skaters.
Except Nathan, nearly.It is the early in the season and people have been on breaks from skating. No one is at their best.
Mariah’s lutz edge should generally be e or at least ! though. That’s the main reason I want to see protocols for this “event”, to see how many edge calls weren’t actually called. Mariah did skate than Gracie, it was just hard for me to consider a 50 point difference, especially considering PCS, spins, and steps.Because Mariah did 6 clean jumps, and Gracie did essentially one clean triple the 3lz 2T, she has a 3Fe, and an Ur 3Lo and the rest of the jumps were doubles.
Bradie obviously landed more triples but she had a lot of URs....
I don't think it's a conspiracy or grand. It's just a strategy. Also I think Thorngren may have been the best technically.Honestly, no one in this competition was better technically. Was she overscored, yes. It is a national competition. Just look at the insane scores that Russia is giving their top skaters. All countries do it (except Japan)... but was she overscored in comparison to the other ladies, no。 She land far more clean triples than anyone else in the competition. It is the early in the season and people have been on breaks from skating. No one is at their best. It isn't some grand conspiracy..
So they just scrubbed Gracie's entire existence from this event? Interesting...Turns out she was never really there. It was all an illusion, a hallucination. Ghost Gracie scored 51 I think, (there was an out of focus video of someone who I think landed a 3Lutz3toe) I can't remember the long score, again though, none of it really ever happened. LOL (Her score, name, and video has disappeared, and on the Fan site, The women are now not accessible. Glad I saw most of of when I did, even if I had no clue who some of them were)
Right now he's running it as if it's a training program and not a performance program.Honestly I think Chen fs has potential to be his best fs so far. I think the music choices are good and as long as he doesnt wear some drastically hideous baggy top I think the program will look very beautiful and sleek
This wasn't Russian Cup, it was some kiddie competition being telecast by Mainstream. (And I mean 3-7 year olds) Programs were about a minute in length, and each kids name was posted, with the score etc. The point being, USFSA-drawing elite skaters, ought to do better. They could at least post the skaters name on the bottom of the video before he/she/they skate.The Russian Cup was an in- person (possibly COVID spreading) , live broadcast on Russian TV ( Channel 1 which I believe is #1 channel in Russia ) with professional video crews. It can't be compared to an event where the kids coaches or parents are filming them, with. an online audience of perhaps a few thousand. That isn't realistic. Given the circumstances and constraints it is fine.
These are all very reasonable requests and hopefully USFS will make these changes if they receive feedback. Perhaps some members can message then on social media with these suggestions. The other posters hoping for TV broadcastlike quality (Yes, even the tiny tots skating in Russia had a video crew) are being unreasonable.Though not perfect, I’m grateful to have anything figure skating wise. My little complaints are (as mentioned) having the names of the skaters up either during the skates or during a brief pause between skaters stating something like: Up next: Sean Rabbit. I also would hold on the skater’s last pose a second or two longer before switching to next skater. Obviously, a few skaters had far better videographers than others. I think that’s great, but other skaters should be able to have same quality - better for them, better for judges and better for viewers. I also would love to see the protocols released. Hopefully, all these things can be worked out in future. Since this is USFSA‘s first attempt at a virtual comp though, I’ll give them a break.