Without 2014 olympics and the effort of fed to build convincing fields in all disciplines, Russian ladies' sjating wouldn't have had reach this level probably.
Will and money matters everywhere. Well said.
I think you misunderstood.
This one, are exactly what we were saying!
Skating unappealing to Greeks? I would suggest that the family and friends of Ms. Gabrielle Papadakis might disagree with you
I still feel we are speaking over each other, and saying the same thing. Of course we cannot always predict. The key word in this statement that you made is "always". Anomalies occur, and unpredictable events occur, how can they not? But you cannot always predict. So how can you present anomalies, and say it can occur elsewhere?
Right, but it still doesn't have a big skating culture. One person brought it more attention, and it's grown somewhat (both of which I state in my comment, that some Turk can and will inspire a culture - but also that this culture will be rather fractured, and won't be as big as somewhere in Russia or Canada or even France), but it takes more than that.
Yes, and India even has a very big potential market for the ISU. You will even find many Indians commenting on not just Davis and White's Bollywood OD. And yet, they don't really care all that much about skating, at least as much as they could. The sports culture is different, they focus on summer sports a lot more, and cricket (which isn't an Olympic sport either, like roller skating). Just in the summer Olympics, they got an Olympic Gold in men's Javelin Throw, and did decently in Women's badminton, and men's hockey played on a turf ("field hockey"). How many will they even send to the winter Olympics?
But I didn't say at all that the sport has zero growth potential in any country without a snowy winter. The point was it's too hard to shift that sport culture into something that is very much unnatural for them. Malaysia is still a very small fed. A very small fed. Of course it remains to be seen how big it gets, but there are many different factors, that don't just depend on one person.
Many areas of India surely have rich people who play polo (and golf, as there was a female Olympian who did very well this summer), but it will still be a tiny, tiny fraction of that population that is interested in those sports. Even if these rich people ended up constructing rinks in India, and skated at those rinks, and somehow found a way to ship themselves to Brian Orser - it will be limited to these rich people, and maybe some of their fans will pick up a pair of skates (which won't even be available that widely as they are usually not in South Asian or South East Asian countries, when it comes to the brands we all recognize as being great). The rest will still watch and play cricket and badminton, because it's easier to find places to play those things in India.
I agree citizenship maybe has something to do with it, but it's still the case of an anomaly. Israel is a much smaller country than a lot of others in Asia, and differs from large swaths of Asia culturally. And Israeli fed is still very small indeed.
That automatically kills three disciplines. Women can hardly reach a particular peak either with certain restrictions - there's even an ice rink in Dubai or some place, but hardly do I expect it to become a meccah of skating.Skating unappealing to Greeks? I would suggest that the family and friends of Ms. Gabrielle Papadakis might disagree with you
True, she skates for France, but I would be willing to bet that at least some folks in the Greek community are very proud of her.
Exactly. If you are from a country with a 6,000 dollar per capita gdp, you aren’t going to be inspired by someone traveling the world that is overmatched and last. You are more likely to be angry that they have your yearly salary to burn to travel the world. Or if they don’t even live or train in that country then they are just foreign citizens for the most part.
In my country many thinks that figure skating only happens in christmas shows. They don't even now that it's an olympic sport. And i'm tired to be seen as someone from another planet when i watch figure skating videos.
So i think they will hardly care if a kid with rich parents skate for our country someday.
LOL. I mean even when it comes to South Korea, even though the scene is much better Before Kim Era (BKE
), it's still not reached the madness it used to have - and maybe never will. South Korea will always care more about Speed Skating.
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In my country many thinks that figure skating only happens in christmas shows. They don't even now that it's an olympic sport. And i'm tired to be seen as someone from another planet when i watch figure skating videos.
So i think they will hardly care if a kid with rich parents skate for our country someday.
Could you show one person in the thread who has disagreed with you...?I am not Mexican and I would leave our Mexican friends to describe more accurately. But I do read Spanish and the coverage of figure skating has increased immeasurably with Donova’s rise. will it ever equal soccer? Of course not. As a general sports fan, I’m not looking for that pie in the sky for figure skating.
but one Donovan, raising the profile of figure skating in Mexico? (and he has spoken many times that this is his goal). In the words of the old MasterCard commercial, priceless.
and general sports fans can take that position?OK, so you didn't read what I was saying in the thread at all, now I know
OK, so you didn't read what I was saying in the thread at all, now I know
But can you answer this:
Don't be. These are different topics, which have little bearing on what has been said and what I was saying specifically. Again, if you'd read what was being said, what I'd quoted there, and had interest in discussing in good faith without point scoring, then, maybe...?
Although, of course, as they say... ignorance is bliss.
There is about 0 chance for that to happen here.But what about a completely homegrown fan favorite who comes from a very modest background and who trains in his home country?
such as Donovan Carrillo.
I for one have zero issue with anyone from any country skating in the Olympics or world championships.But what about a completely homegrown fan favorite who comes from a very modest background and who trains in his home country?
such as Donovan Carrillo.
I am not Mexican and I would leave our Mexican friends to describe more accurately. But I do read Spanish and the coverage of figure skating has increased immeasurably with Donova’s rise. will it ever equal soccer? Of course not. As a general sports fan, I’m not looking for that pie in the sky for figure skating.
but one Donovan, raising the profile of figure skating in Mexico? (and he has spoken many times that this is his goal). In the words of the old MasterCard commercial, priceless.
