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My problem is that some of her jumps don´t get called UR, while they call other skaters.
2021-22 Russian Nationals: Women's FS
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Yep. The 4F wasn't even close and the 3loop was under. Also, with three triple/triple combos, she still only has seven triples. It simply allows her a second individual double axel instead of a double toe/loop on a combo. If she did a 3a, then it would be a big deal
Kamila, Sasha and Liza Nugumanova
Well, I'm exhausted. Russian Nationals does that to you (and the champagne didn't help either).
But what a wonderful competition this was!!
Kamila clean as a whistle was kinda expected. But still she blew my mind.
I am SUPER happy for Sasha. Clean-ish program and a well deserved silver medal. This is the first time she beats Anna in quite a few years!!
Anna was messy today, but she fought through, and she still medalled because of her big advantage from the short. Knowing Anna, this will only fuel her motivation more.
Super happy for Adelia and Samodelkina. Fantastic skates and names for the future.
Sinitsyna was also lovely as always. I hope she will still be in the National Team next year.
Tuktamysheva delivered at last in the free. But it wasn't enough unfortunately and she did have lower content than usual. No 3+3's. If she had skated clean in the short and upped her game in the free, she might have challenged Anna for that 3rd spot.
Remember, RusFed usually decides after Euros. I'm expecting them to send Kamila, Sasha and Anna there, but if anyone of them isn't on the podium I think Liza might have a chance at the Olympics. The Russians biggest enemy right now at Euros is Hendrickx.
But what a wonderful competition this was!!
Kamila clean as a whistle was kinda expected. But still she blew my mind.
I am SUPER happy for Sasha. Clean-ish program and a well deserved silver medal. This is the first time she beats Anna in quite a few years!!
Anna was messy today, but she fought through, and she still medalled because of her big advantage from the short. Knowing Anna, this will only fuel her motivation more.
Super happy for Adelia and Samodelkina. Fantastic skates and names for the future.
Sinitsyna was also lovely as always. I hope she will still be in the National Team next year.
Tuktamysheva delivered at last in the free. But it wasn't enough unfortunately and she did have lower content than usual. No 3+3's. If she had skated clean in the short and upped her game in the free, she might have challenged Anna for that 3rd spot.
Remember, RusFed usually decides after Euros. I'm expecting them to send Kamila, Sasha and Anna there, but if anyone of them isn't on the podium I think Liza might have a chance at the Olympics. The Russians biggest enemy right now at Euros is Hendrickx.
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Valieva has the smartest layout ever. With the 3A and three quads it allows her to only do one Euler and no double jumps.
Sasha in comparison still needs to do a 2A.
Wait, in your trinity "Sasha" Is Sasha Trusova or Sasha Samarin disguised in a woman's dress and trying to get to the Olympics at least like that?
I myself do not think that this is a good move - obviously Trusova will tear Samarin apart figuratively (on sport field) and litteraly (for encroaching on her Olympic ticket) "Sasha, don't hit me with skates, they're sharp!" in a panic, Samarin shouted, "I just wanted to see the Olympics, at least in this way"I honestly didn't see any UR's. That Loop combo was baaad, and she got negative GOE on it, but it was clearly fully rotated in the replay.
Anna has the second highest international score this season behind Kamila and has won 2 grand prixs this season. It's not like she had a bad season at all or anyone else besides Kamila had a better season.
Did Anna have a bad season or a bad competition? She won both her grand prixs.
Well the protocols are out:
Valieva - no calls
Trusova - ! calls on her Flips and a q on 3T, steps 3
Petrosian - no calls but steps 3
Shcherbakova - no calls
Samodelkina - 4Sq, 4S<, spin 3V
Tuktamysheva - 3A<, spin 3V
Muravieva - no calls, steps 3
Khromykh - 3Lo<, steps 3, spin 3
Valieva - no calls
Trusova - ! calls on her Flips and a q on 3T, steps 3
Petrosian - no calls but steps 3
Shcherbakova - no calls
Samodelkina - 4Sq, 4S<, spin 3V
Tuktamysheva - 3A<, spin 3V
Muravieva - no calls, steps 3
Khromykh - 3Lo<, steps 3, spin 3
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I believe Anna deserves to be at the Olympics and she is a better skater and a better bet than Liza, BUT this truly is ridiculous. The reason why I don't much care is cause it doesn't change the overall picture - these junior girls can't do much with a bronze here, they mainly show up to do exactly that, show up and make a good impression. And they did. And even if she had finished in 5th she would be going to the Olympics and not them, so... it's like arguing if Kamila wins by 10 or by 30 points to me.
Anna didn't have any lutzs or flips. She has one universal jump.
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When I saw the avalance being hurled at Eteri, I figured it was some kind of celebratory prank to commemorate her 'sweeping the podium' with three of her TT skaters.I'm not so sure it was a cross-fire.
Rather, someone may have used the unique opportunity to throw something at Eteri.
And for what it's worth, I, too, was concerned about both Sofias being placed under Anna in their combined totals, until I thought about all the extra points Anna had brought from the technical program, plus the fact her free program did deserve very high PCs. Also, it means more to have three senior-qualified podium finalists in an Olympic year; those who are juniors NOW will return to literally kick butt come the 2022-2023 season, when a few key senior members may have decided to retire. Therefore I decided not to worry about the seeming 'unfairness' of it.
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I’m not a hater. I’m a skating fan. A fan of all skaters and good skating.
Can you, S someone calling others haters, honestly justify Anna’s placement? And if so, please explain how.
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Yep, I was born on July 7th too. I'd be livid if I was her. Sofia Akatyeva would likely have placed second today. Why hold her back from competing when the judges are giving the marks to Muraviëva, Petrosyan, and Samodelkina??? Akatyeva is wayyyyy ahead of those girls.
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Possibly. If Anna has lost her quads, doesn’t have a triple axel and her technique appears to be failing- I wouldn’t hesitate to send Liza.
I don’t see Olympic judges cheating for Anna.
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One of the problems is that there are only 3 junior worlds spots, so if they called URs on Samodelkina to let Scherbakova ahead it will carry on to the junior nationals. With Akatyeva not being in this Nationals, one of these 3 girls will be out and I dunno if calls on Samodelkina and -1 for Murav’yeva is the message there. But, come January, maybe things would be forgotten. I sure hope so.
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To be fair, this can be said about almost everyone in the field if we are this strict.
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I've a pretty good idea that this particular Russian Nationals was a bit of a one-off due to extreme circumstances of that-which-cannot-be-mentioned; there was no way to hold a fair JGPF or GPF, even if that could have been done after all. We'll not know until the last minute if 4CC, Euros, Olympics, and/or World will be held or cancelled. Seems like it'd only be right to 'start over' July 1 of 2022, in determination of who gets GP and JGP spots, etc. Pretty sure I'm missing something, but like I said--I'm not going to worry about it. This seeming lineup of a Russian Olympics team may not come to pass due to more illnesses, injuries, or cancellations. If the world was 'normal' now as it was late 2019, I feel that details such as appearing to rig scores in order to place only eligible seniors on a Russian Nationals podium could be quite different, that is, much more 'fair'.
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