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I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
And I hope that Mozalev gets at least one GP stage next year from winning bronze that should have been silver in an honest competition. So, there you go.I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
If the team qualified skater/s to the individual event the selection would have to be made from there. So if she's not sent as an individual she would not be eligible for the team event.I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
Right. Because a decision to put Elizaveta in the team event so she can get an Olympic gold medal over Anna and Sasha who have been top figure skaters for Russia over the past four years, would be so fair. Elizaveta has had a long career and she failed to make the team by placing 7th at Nationals. Anna and Sasha have made so many sacrifices to realize their Olympic dream. This is their chance to rightfully earn an Olympic gold medal and they earned the shot to make it a reality by placing in the top 3 at Nationals consistently over the past three years. Stop suggesting unfairness in this Sport of figure skating.I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
Right. Because a decision to put Elizaveta in the team event so she can get an Olympic gold medal over Anna and Sasha who have been top figure skaters for Russia over the past four years, would be so fair. Elizaveta has had a long career and she failed to make the team by placing 7th at Nationals. Anna and Sasha have made so many sacrifices to realize their Olympic dream. This is their chance to rightfully earn an Olympic gold medal and they earned the shot to make it a reality by placing in the top 3 at Nationals consistently over the past three years. Stop suggesting unfairness in this Sport of figure skating.
I usually don’t engage in hypothetical conversations. Because there can be a lot of what if scenarios. To me, Elizaveta should only be part of the team event, if two of the top three ladies are injured or the virus prevents these girls from competing. Which, I hope doesn’t happen. Only then, we can contemplate adding her to the Team event.But everything you mentioned is just as insignificant
What matters when assigning skaters to the team event is who can reliably rack up the most points
for the team, taking into account the limitations of splitting options and relatable strength of different disciplines,
While also taking into factor the proximity of the team event to some of the later ones, Particularly for medal hopefuls.
If for example Valieva couldn't compete, And there was more of a danger (which there doesn't seem to be right now)
of Russia losing points in the SP, One could argue fairly that Tuk has been scoring 2nd highest internationally all season long
with her 3A and is the best choice for the task over the other two options, And it wouldn't matter how many top 3s they made,
All that in fairness to the rest of Team Russia, Who are expecting the best choices are being made to secure them all the Gold
I usually don’t engage in hypothetical conversations. Because there can be a lot of what if scenarios. To me, Elizaveta should only be part of the team event, if two of the top three ladies are injured or the virus prevents these girls from competing. Which, I hope doesn’t happen. Only then, we can contemplate adding her to the Team event.
But, I’ll entertain this one scenario where Valieva can’t compete. In this hypothetical scenario, even then, Anna S, should still do the short program because she hasn’t lost to Elizaveta in any competition these two have met. Furthermore, she has also beaten Elizaveta handily in both segments: the SP and LP in the duration of the last year. If you look at only the short program, at last three competitions these two have entered, for SP only, you get:
Worlds SP - 81.00 (1st) versus 78.86 (3rd)
WTT - 81.07 (1st) versus 80.35 (2nd)
Russian Nationals - 81.46 (2nd) versus 71.28 (7th)
Anna S. has earned it. Won all three times over Elizaveta in the past year. She may not have a triple axel, but her triple triple combo has been all that is required to beat Elizaveta in just the short program segment. With no Valieva, there is no actual valid arguement to add Elizaveta to the team barring injury or sickness of Anna S. But, even then, Anna S being the warrior she is, with a broken foot or flu/virus, will do everything she can to fulfil the Olympic dream like she did in Russian Nationals back in 2020.
Please put yourself in Anna’s shoes and imagine a scenario where someone is chosen over you for the chance at Olympic Gold, yet, this opponent of yours has never beaten you in a competition. Now imagine watching that person selected to do the short program over you, despite, your unbeaten streak against this person the last three times you faced this athlete. That is what would be considered an unfair scenario. Unfairness in the sense that a decision was made based on feelings over facts and results.
But everything you mentioned is just as insignificant
What matters when assigning skaters to the team event is who can reliably rack up the most points
for the team, taking into account the limitations of splitting options and relatable strength of different disciplines,
While also taking into factor the proximity of the team event to some of the later ones, Particularly for medal hopefuls.
If for example Valieva couldn't compete, And there was more of a danger (which there doesn't seem to be right now)
of Russia losing points in the SP, One could argue fairly that Tuk has been scoring 2nd highest internationally all season long
with her 3A and is the best choice for the task over the other two options, And it wouldn't matter how many top 3s they made,
All that in fairness to the rest of Team Russia, Who are expecting the best choices are being made to secure them all the Gold
Is this even possible? I thought the team was selected from members of the current team. Can they add a 4th skater just for the team event?I love Elizaveta. I hope the Russian Olympic committee would send her in the Russian Olympic team competition
Moot point about whether Tuktamysheva should get the SP team event over Shcherbakova because as of right now unless someone gets injured or sick Tuktamysheva is not going to the Olympics so she is not an option for the team event.
Is this even possible? I thought the team was selected from members of the current team. Can they add a 4th skater just for the team event?
Anna was never beaten because she's been one of the favorites of RusFed which always gives her a pass on her poor techniques. I wish Liza could represent another country that appreciates her talents. But unfortunately there's no what-ifs.Please put yourself in Anna’s shoes and imagine a scenario where someone is chosen over you for the chance at Olympic Gold, yet, this opponent of yours has never beaten you in a competition. Now imagine watching that person selected to do the short program over you, despite, your unbeaten streak against this person the last three times you faced this athlete. That is what would be considered an unfair scenario. Unfairness in the sense that a decision was made based on feelings over facts and results.
Anna was never beaten because she's been one of the favorites of RusFed which always gives her a pass on her poor techniques. I wish Liza could represent another country that appreciates her talents. But unfortunately there's no what-ifs.
Not true. Remember, Anna won over Elizaveta at Russian Nationals two weeks ago. That is your “at this moment” as it is their last competition. I even posted the score. Anna was a full ten points ahead of Elizaveta. 81 is higher than 71. Anna proved to be solid with her 3Lz 3Lo. Elizaveta fell on her 3A and didn’t do a triple triple combo. Also, in the free skate, I was further stunned that she didn’t even try to make a case with no 3Lz 3T. Where did this combo go? So, actually, at this moment, Elizaveta must not have a consistent triple triple. A lack of triple triple would not fare well against Sakamoto or Higuchi. So, Anna is the one who would be picked in this hypothetical situation. Which, we shouldn’t even talk about as most likely it will be Kamila, anyways. But, even in this hypothetical situation, there is no valid case to justify Elizaveta over Anna. Case closedYeah but all of that still doesn't matter,
At this moment, Not last year, Not for the past 4 years, Elizaveta is more competitive in the SP than Anna
Really......When did Bradie beat Tuk?GP China 2019 Shcherbakova received calls on everything and she still beat Tuktamysheva because her BV gives her the room for some errors. Tuktamysheva is doing a layout that lost to both Bradie Tennell and Satoko Miyahara, neither of which has triple axels or quads.
Really......When did Bradie beat Tuk?
Not true. Remember, Anna won over Elizaveta at Russian Nationals two weeks ago. That is your “at this moment” as it is their last competition. I even posted the score. Anna was a full ten points ahead of Elizaveta. 81 is higher than 71. Anna proved to be solid with her 3Lz 3Lo. Elizaveta fell on her 3A and didn’t do a triple triple combo. Also, in the free skate, I was further stunned that she didn’t even try to make a case with no 3Lz 3T. Where did this combo go? So, actually, at this moment, Elizaveta must not have a consistent triple triple. A lack of triple triple would not fare well against Sakamoto or Higuchi. So, Anna is the one who would be picked in this hypothetical situation. Which, we shouldn’t even talk about as most likely it will be Kamila, anyways. But, even in this hypothetical situation, there is no valid case to justify Elizaveta over Anna. Case closed
Right. Because a decision to put Elizaveta in the team event so she can get an Olympic gold medal over Anna and Sasha who have been top figure skaters for Russia over the past four years, would be so fair. Elizaveta has had a long career and she failed to make the team by placing 7th at Nationals. Anna and Sasha have made so many sacrifices to realize their Olympic dream. This is their chance to rightfully earn an Olympic gold medal and they earned the shot to make it a reality by placing in the top 3 at Nationals consistently over the past three years. Stop suggesting unfairness in this Sport of figure skating.