2022 European Championships: Men's Free Skate

[ivanja]

No I won't stop.

Russian men are treated like shit here, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the cruel taunts, I'm sick of posters mocking their programs, I'm sick of been made to feel like a shit fan because I support and enjoy them.

And Zhenya's not going to the Olympics now and you're all cheering. You're awful all of you, how dare you take such pleasure in his failure. He's a human being with hopes and feelings. They all are.

But all you people see is a flag.

No, that's the only thing the judges see. It has to be, when landing jumps during an entire skate with no crisp edges gets you 90 PCS and an European gold.

Maybe the fans would be more open to Russian skaters if their federation was not activelly tainting their sporting careers with an overdose of background politics. Just a thought.

 

[Anni234]

Started playing the "Woland theme" from Semenenkos Master and Margarita program, because it just stuck with me. Partner came in from the other room "oooh, are we worshiping something??"

 

[moonvine]

Gotta take my BIL to buy lottery tickets ahead of the named winter storm..because we all know what is important when storms come. Not bread, not milk, but lottery tickets.

Congrats to all medalists!

 

[lariko]

I think what actually going to happen with Russian Olympic team, is that Mozalenko both might remain home, and Samarin is called up, because their performance in the free didn’t earn medals.

 

[anonymoose_au]

But.....Patrick Chan did get strong criticism, both from commenters AND commentators.

But there's plenty of people who'll defend him, plenty.

But try and defend a Russian man...

If there'd been a Russian hopeful against Chan I bet you a trillion dollars that criticism would have washed away.

At least own your bias. If the judges get called on it so should all of you.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

I always thought Kondratyuk will split it with Kolyada. As for for Mozalev, he will remain first alternative. Unfortunately, 4S got him again.

Mozalev shouldn't be 1st alternate. He's beaten Semenenko both of their head to heads, Nationals and Euros.

But I'm guessing the Mishin factor (and Evgeni's GP bronze) will send Semenenko to the Olympics. It's not like Mishin hasn't ever politicked well enough to send a skater who lost a head-to-head to the Olympics over someone who beat them.

 

[kan01]

They need to give Hanyu 100 PCS, or whatever the maximum is, from now on. Even if he falls.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

I think what actually going to happen with Russian Olympic team, is that Mozalenko both might remain home, and Samarin is called up, because their performance in the free didn’t earn medals.

Sokolovskaya's already having one skater. Tuktamysheva will be snubbed because of Eteri probably.

So to appease the Mishin camp, Semenenko will likely be the 3rd guy going.

 

[kolyadafan2002]

I think what actually going to happen with Russian Olympic team, is that Mozalenko both might remain home, and Samarin is called up, because their performance in the free didn’t earn medals.

No

 

[lariko]

Sokolovskaya's already having one skater. Tuktamysheva will be snubbed because of Eteri probably.

So to appease the Mishin camp, Semenenko will likely be the 3rd guy going.

This is my feeling as well. Mozalev just didn’t do enough unfortunately. But I will hope for him to be fantastic in Cup of Russia and get selected for GP. Depending on how the other Russians do, he might have a chance at worlds, but I am not sure.

 

[Artemisa]

They look so cute in podium .. and with the coaches that is impossible not to smile

 

[lariko]

I don´t think they would have send Mark to the Olympics, if he had bombed here. So I´m very happy for him.

I am happy for him too, I just wanted a better ending for Mozalev, as in bronze, which would have helped him a fair bit. But 4S would have helped him more.

 

[cathlen]

No I won't stop.

Russian men are treated like shit here, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the cruel taunts, I'm sick of posters mocking their programs, I'm sick of been made to feel like a shit fan because I support and enjoy them.

And Zhenya's not going to the Olympics now and you're all cheering. You're awful all of you, how dare you take such pleasure in his failure. He's a human being with hopes and feelings. They all are.

But all you people see is a flag.

Many of us loves Russian men/women/Pairs & Ice Dance teams. Some even all of them. I understand you're angry but not everyone is out there to shit on Russians. Personally I would love Mozalev on podium, but unfortunately he did not skate clean today. And we are allowed to be happy for Daniel and Deniss, who skated great, so they are on podium becuase of doing amazing. I must say, I was glad that no Russian bombed today. All of them fought. And in many years that would be enough to podium, but not today.

 

[Warwick360]

But there's plenty of people who'll defend him, plenty.

But try and defend a Russian man...

If there'd been a Russian hopeful against Chan I bet you a trillion dollars that criticism would have washed away.

At least own your bias. If the judges get called on it so should all of you.

Nope. You presume too much.

Every time Chan was skating, and falling towards the end, and still earning massive scores, I've been against it.

Be it when against Daisuke or against Denis Ten. But Chan doesn't skate currently. And no matter which ever discipline you look, there is politics going on right now. So, while staying in the NOW, instead of the PAST, I can't agree or believe that the judges, if asked on the spot, will be able to justify their PCS scoring. Better chance of seeing unicorn flying over the Great Wall, once cometh the Olympics.

 

[Supernovaimplosion]

Finally Deniss has ended his potato streak

 

[lariko]

A okay, guys, I am going go make some food, because I fasted since the short program, because I am silly

 

[Lzbee]

I would argue that Andrei has decent performance skills out of the Russian skaters, it's Mark's PCS which is far too high at this point.

I hope team Mozalev works on back-up jump layouts for when pops happen, he could have saved a medal by not zayaking.

I'm not sure if Andrei knew it would be counted as a 3S. He looked pretty nervous today and it was very in between.

 

[kan01]

Aliev won gold in 2020 with Vasilijevs' score.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

It has been lovely watching together with you as always. Not sure if I'll hang around for the action tomorrow, but see you round sooner or later.

 

[rollerblade]

How many Zayak do we have in this event? Or was it just the final group?