Yes indeedy, Jill has a World gold while Sasha has two silvers. And, as we all know, two silvers don't equal one gold in any way, shape, or form.ladysarahchatto said:Jill Trenary was my favorite skater when I was a kid and I remember I loved hearing she was one of Oksana Baiul's favorites too.
And unlike Sasha Trenary won a World Championship.
Off-topic, but another thing struck me re the COP. At least once every major competition, Terry Gannon makes reference to who has the highest SP or LP score since the advent of the COP, at least for the Ladies. I don't think you can really count the GPS scores from fall '03 because the judges were giving out hugely inflated component scores, although I do think the results hold up in terms of the relative placement of the skaters during that period.
Here's where I'm going: With the COP, it is now possible to take, for example, the COP scores from a given number of comparable events, eg, four GPS events, two GPS Finals, two US Nationals, and two Worlds; add up the total scores, or given segments such as the SPs or LPs; and compare two or more skaters from the same country in terms of which skater garnered more points than the other(s).
Of course it would be a meaningless exercise except for personal interest, but there are all kinds of COP games you can play among skaters. For example, in 10 comparable events, one skater may have been awarded significantly more points, but have never received a medal compared to another skater with, say, two gold medals but whose overall COP total is less than the no-medals skater. This could happen between two skaters in which the first skater came in a close fourth in all 10 events, whereas the second skater came in between fourth and 10th in eight of the 10 events, plus the two first place (gold medal) finishes.
Yeah, just what we need. Yet another way to fight about which skater is best.
Actually, what made me think of it was an article from 2004 about Shizuka. First, I want to emphasize that I love Shizuka's skating. I liked it even before she made such great improvements so quickly when she changed coaches from Richard Callaghan to Tarasova; but since Worlds '04, I've been in love. Anyway, I knew Shizza's record, but somehow seeing it in writing made me think, "Wow, those are the only medals she's won?" In terms of serious international competition, ie, not counting the GPS, since 1998, Shizuka has only won one one World gold, and, of course, the '06 OGM. For five years, from 1999 until 2003, Shizuka didn't even make the Japanese World team. And a certain other skater has all those shoeboxes full of silvers.
PLEASE believe me that I'm not trying to turn this into a "which skater is best" thing. For me, it's a "skate god" thing, for lack of a better description. It's just an interesting mystery how different lives do or do not achieve certain things. The other thing that struck me in the '04 article about Shizuka is that she said she never sets goals for a season, such as "I want to get on the World podium" or whatever. But in another quote, Arakawa said, "I work hard on my jumps. I care very much that my jump landingås are as smooth as they can be." It seemed to me that this is a different thought process from most US skaters, where the vast majority of the culture is goal oriented.
Sorry to go Off-topic for so long. I'll be the first toåç say these issues shouldn't be here, but perhaps in a summer thread, if in a thread at all. Done now. "South Park" is on.
Rgirl