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What a silly post.I think the "foot/toe" thing was a lie.
What a silly post.I think the "foot/toe" thing was a lie.
From Michelle's official biography on the USFS site:I guess I learn something all the time, I was under the belief by commentators, that the only 6.0 the Ambassador received was the cheesfest in 05 for her LP.? Thanks for the correction.:agree:
Yeah, 2005 Nationals was the very last chance the U.S. judges had to give out 6.0s. They must have had quite a few left in their basket that they wanted to get rid of, so they gave Michelle a going away present. They gave a bunch to Belbin and Agosto, too, IIRC.SeaniBu said:After listening, it would appear her or Dick did not think she had a 6.0 pro for Bolero LP either, but I think she did get 3 or more for sure.
It really is time to quit this rehash of events, imol It leads to no conclusion and we must remember that Henie was the greatest of all competitors in whatever era..
Now I wish that I had always been recording the scores.Yeah, 2005 Nationals was the very last chance the U.S. judges had to give out 6.0s. They must have had quite a few left in their basket that they wanted to get rid of, so they gave Michelle a going away present. They gave a bunch to Belbin and Agosto, too, IIRC.
Katarina Witt did not have the longevity of Michelle Kwan-not even close. No one called her a flash in the pan, but she was in and out and she didn't have the medal count Michelle had.
Apparently, from what I heard from people in her shows was she was a tyrant.Like I have said, I am happy to learn about FS, be it the past, present or the future, you don't even want to know what I though Sonja's popularity was from before I learned about her from here.
I think the only time was Belbin and Agosto, with perfect 6.0's across the baord in presentation for their free dance at 2005 U.S. Nationals."Q" Then, no one ever received 6.0 across the board in US history?
Yah, I don't hear to much about them, someone did mention Uncle Dick though., we could also mention some of the great men skaters of the past. What about Ulich Salchow, who won ten World Championships? Or Gillis Grafstrom who won three Olympic gold medals and one silver.
BTW, if you want to get all the dirt on Sonia Henie, :
We've been through all of this before. Apparently all the athletes saluted Hitler because that's what Europeans did with Heads-of-State in all previous Olympics. How famous she was, she was hyped in many photos during that Olys. It was 1936 and not everyone was aware of the Nazi Party, unfortunately.If we are going back to Sonia Henie, we could also mention some of the great men skaters of the past. What about Ulich Salchow, who won ten World Championships? Or Gillis Grafstrom who won three Olympic gold medals and one silver.
BTW, if you want to get all the dirt on Sonia Henie, there is plenty floating around. She was criticized for being cozy with Hitler, and roundly comdemned by the Norwegian resistence movement for not supporting their cause in World War II (when Henie was living in the U.S.) She had a reputation as a ruthless business women and is accused of swindling her own brother out of all of his land holdings in the U.S.
So, yes, I would have to say she was a competitor.
One of the most important characteristics of a great comeptitor is the longevity of their skating competitively at the very top of the field. Besides Henie (who had no real competition), the only one that has done that is Kwan. Witt came in and out. Lipinski was here and then gone. Same with Sara.
Kwan's longevity in competitive women's skating at the very top is almost unmatched. Henie had no real competition-they were walkovers.
She tried again in her second Olympics and was even shooting for a third. Skaters don't get much more competitive than that.
Michelle Kwan is one of the great skaters of all time and a terrific competitor too, but in my opinion an athlete cannot be the greatest competitor if they don't win the biggest, most pressure packed competition in their (individual not team) sport.
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I think Yagudin holds the record for the most 6.0s in international competition.