Flying layback, Inverted Spiral

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Is there anybody who can perform these moves?

What about a double flying sit spin?

 

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Not sure what you mean by "inverted spiral." There was a clip floating around a year or so ago that showed a girl doing a flying layback.

 

Tinymavy15

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Yes, there was a rumor that a flying layback was supposed to be a reqired element for the ladies short programs... but i have never seen one.

 

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A Korean girl did the flying layback (title was 'first flying layback spin') at the 2006 Four Continents Championship. I think it was Ji-Eun Choi.

ETA: On second thought, maybe it wasn't her. It was a Korean girl from last year wearing a pale-blue dress. The video was really blurry and it was a 10 second clip, but it was very clearly a flying layback.

 

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gio said:

Flying layback, Inverted Spiral

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A few years ago, wasn't this the title of a surrealistic samurai movie? ​

 

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Wait, I was partly-right the first time. It was Ji-Eun Choi who did the flying layback at the 2005 Four Continents Championship. (Note: The video may not work just yet; I uploaded it a few hours ago).

 

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Am I the only one who doesn't think this is looks pretty?

 

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_Ladybug_ said:

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is looks pretty?

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I agree--it doesn't look pretty. And the only reason why it's being credited as a layback is cos she doesn't do the three-rotations in the bad sit position =P

Pretty soon a skater out there will try flying biellmann.

(I do think she can do the flying layback--if she'd taken the flying camel approach, rather than the flying sit)

 

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Flying Layback

blue dog said:

I agree--it doesn't look pretty. And the only reason why it's being credited as a layback is cos she doesn't do the three-rotations in the bad sit position =P

Pretty soon a skater out there will try flying biellmann.

(I do think she can do the flying layback--if she'd taken the flying camel approach, rather than the flying sit)

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It looked kind of juvenile to me. Done very rough, like she was deliberately trying to show off. She should stay away from IMO.

 

Tinymavy15

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it would have looked better if she had done a regualt flying sit and then up into a layback.

 

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I thought it was cool. It could be brilliant if the right skater did it but needs sharper positions as well as speed. But that's a non-skater opinion.

 

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I too agree that if she had the flying camel entry it might look better than the flying sit entry. Didn't do much for me either.

 

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She didn't really do a proper flying layback -- but what appears to be a flying tuck into a layback. A true flying layback achieves the layback position while airborne and lands in the layback spinning. Ji lands and then does a sideways leaning spin.

The flying layback was done years ago - I've seen some male skaters do better ones than Ji..... Lesley Hawker of Canada had a really great flying layback a couple of years ago that she was working on but when the CoP system was revised - it was just not worth the points to do it -- and few callers really id'd it properly.

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Flying layback sounds like a move for Caroline Zhang or Mirai Nagasu. The flying tuck is what I liked!

 

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Flying camel entrance would put the skater in a backspin, which generally isn't done for a layback.

I don't think it was pretty either. If anyone has a video of someone doing it as it's supposed to be done, I'd love to see it!! Sounds nigh to impossible.

 

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I looked at the reports from 4CC in 05...and her flying layback was counted as a flying upright...i think if they want it to count they need to be in the layback position in the air...which is kinda akward

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what you call an inverted spiral?

Ilenia Baldisser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe3IVcW0_-c

Daniel Arriola (not sure if the link works) He does it at the middle of the program
Used to have the best one, but I think the CoP does the skaters take it out

http://www.rollersports.tv/130.186.80.129/Joomlaeng/index538c.html?option=com_content&task=view&id=431&Itemid=33


I'm sorry that is no ice, but I am not sure about this spin being an inverted spiral as you call it. I call it just inverted, hehe